Like Kill Lists.
No but Stricter laws are needed
Some weapon types should be banned
Certain Weapons and attachments should be banned
Last edited by carabas; 12-31-2012 at 08:42 PM.
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Like, I'm sure the Tea Party wouldn't be terrified that Obama was plotting to steal their gun so whites would be unable to defend themselves during the coming race war if there wasn't some rational, factual basis for it.
As for evil, what else do you call it when someone of sound mind decides to murder, steal, or rape? And what do you call it when you interfere with others' ability to defend themselves against such crimes? This is about violent crime, and it's easier to arm and train a school administrator or provide sufficient police protection to schools than it is to pass a bunch of laws intent on disarming people who have no regard for the law.
Of course the UK has a lower rate of firearms death, but a higher rate of murders committed without firearms. Or or murders by stabbing or strangulation somehow not as bad as murders by firearms?
Last edited by Valerie; 12-31-2012 at 11:09 PM.
This isn't about solving violent crime, but about reducing the instances and magnitude of spree killings, which almost universally involve firearms, and are beginning to happen in the US with alarming regularity. Mentioning knife crime, or murder rates is an attempt to obfuscate the debate in to subjects that whilst linked, are actually not what anyone has been talking about.
The point is that gun control, it is suggested, would reduce the severity and the regularity of spree killings, and as a by product would also put a dent in the number of murders committed with firearms, not that gun control would magically remove violent death from society. But it would reduce it.
And that seems to be the main thrust of the argument from the pro-gun crowd, that the solution offered isn't perfect so therefore shouldn't be followed.
I'll ignore the comments of healthcare to stop any thread drift, but remind me to tell you about my five year old son and his experiences with socialised healthcare sometime, and you'll understand why, on this subject, you're talking out of your ass.
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He is a machiavellian and almost everything he does seems to come out of the Bzerezinski playbook.