View Poll Results: Should the right to bear arms be abolished

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  • Yes

    77 22.06%
  • No

    134 38.40%
  • No but Stricter laws are needed

    95 27.22%
  • maybe

    2 0.57%
  • Some weapon types should be banned

    16 4.58%
  • Certain Weapons and attachments should be banned

    25 7.16%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma View Post
    yet you missed the elephant in the room when it comes to many don't trust the govt. The US came about because of perceived abuse by the British govt. That mistrust has colored US citizens' views of govt. from the start, we are taught in primary school that we rebelled because the British govt. was corrupt and did not respect the rights of man; this distrust was so great that the very framework of US govt. is a series of checks and balances to keep the govt. in check. The Bill of Rights is a laundry list of what the colonials were rebelling against. Aside from the 2nd the Amendments are limits against govt. tyranny.
    You guys think YOU were abused by the British government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    You guys think YOU were abused by the British government?
    ...and we actually fought back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma View Post
    NO ONE short of the military and SWAT units need assault rifles, rocket launchers, teflon coated ammo, bullet proof vests, and ammo clips with more than six rounds. If you are a hunter and you need more than six, you suck as a hunter.
    I agree with most of what you said, but need to point out a few problems. First of all, the definition of an assault rifle includes any rifle with cosmetic or comfort features like an adjustable stock and a pistol grip. I know some people who prefer hunting with AR's not because they suck as hunters, and not because they need to fire more than one shot to bring down their game, but because they like the comfort and the improved precision they get with such features. The definition of "assault rifle" indeed has nothing to do with its capabilities. Most hunting rifles are semiautomatic, as are nearly all handguns- even the revolver I presume you have. Furthermore, standard capacity for magazines depends on the type of firearm. 30 rounds is standard capacity for a lot of rifles, even "non-assault" hunting rifles. Standard capacity magaines for most pistols hold ten to fifteen rounds. The only gun that has six rounds as standard is a revolver, and that can also qualify as a semiautomatic. And of course, if you need six shots to bring down your game, you suck as a hunter.

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    Unfortunately those cosmetic differences also make it easier to use a weapon in a confined space - like inside a building.
    Last edited by Iangould; 12-29-2012 at 01:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7thangel View Post
    depends on the state you live in, i.e AZ vs NY.
    I know. That's why I pointed out that I live in one of the states with the most lax gun regulations, but even at that, people have to jump through a lot of hoops to purchase a firearm and even more for a concealed carry permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valerie View Post
    Yes, purchasing firearms is not the sole issue here, but how's another law going to prevent another Sandy Hook shooting? The firearms used there were stolen, and it's already illegal all over the country to steal firearms. It's even illegal to possess or use firearms you don't own without written permission or direct supervision of the owner.
    Somebody make this a Sticky so thehod and his buddies can refer back to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    Unfortunately those cosmetic differences also mke it easier to use a weapon in a confined space - like inside a building.
    Curiously, do you find your 9MM a chore to wield in a confined space?
    Last edited by verslibre; 12-29-2012 at 02:08 PM. Reason: F'in typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    You guys think YOU were abused by the British government?
    Indeed, the Native Americans got the raw end of every deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verslibre View Post
    Indeed, the Native Americans got the raw end of every deal.
    Up until Casinos that was a good deal for them. The reservation nearest to my house is using the profits to buy back some of their land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    You guys think YOU were abused by the British government?
    You're just a bunch of convicts, you deserved to be abused. We were principled, adventurers and philosophers...


    I can't even type that with a straight face.
    What have I always believed? That, on the whole, and by and large, if a person lived properly, not according to what any priests said, but according to what seemed decent and honest inside, then it would, at the end, more or less, turn out ok.

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    Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy View Post
    Up until Casinos that was a good deal for them. The reservation nearest to my house is using the profits to buy back some of their land.
    I'm still trying to forge some sort of blood link to any one of three tribes with casinos in my region.

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    In Australia up until about 1830, all forms of Catholic practice were illegal as was simply owning a Catholic edition of the bible.

    The sentence was 7 years in Port Arthur - a prison so terrible that prisoners used to regularly make suicide pacts .

    They hung priests for celebrating Mass.

    You guys got off easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy View Post
    Up until Casinos that was a good deal for them. The reservation nearest to my house is using the profits to buy back some of their land.
    Not for every group some get screwed over revenue distribution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    In Australia up until about 1830, all forms of Catholic practice were illegal as was simply owning a Catholic edition of the bible.

    They hung priests for celebrating Mass.

    You guys got off easy.
    Sounds bad although u guys had Aborigines labelled as flora and fauna until the 1970s. That takes balls even for dehumanization.
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