Should the 2nd amendment (Right to Bear Arms) be Abolished?

[verslibre]

Their headline was that a university student was shot in a home invasion. Didn't mention he was doing the home invasion or that he threatened the tennants. No the paper interviewed his friends and family who said what a good person he was and how sad this was. Like I said, they got called out on it.

Sick. That is just sick.

[7thangel]

i really shouldn't bother as this thread has become a farce but

so I should allow a criminal to assault me or my family when I have the means to stop him from doing so?

that wasn't your original scenario

[Gryphon]

Sick. That is just sick.

It was the first time I saw all the letters to the editor call them out on something like that. I guess all the media attention they wer egetting made them realize they made a big error.

[Vibranium]

i really shouldn't bother as this thread has become a farce but


that wasn't your original scenario

I believe it was...if an intruder is in my home, with intent to harm me or my family and take things (because that is usually why people intrude into homes) what would anyone consider an appropriate response?

call 911 and hope no harm comes to me or have the means to defend myself?

[Michael P]

It's not a binary situation. In some jurisdictions, if you can defend yourself and your family without the use of lethal force, you're legally obligated to do so. And from my point of view, that's the morally correct position as well.

[7thangel]

I believe it was...if an intruder is in my home, with intent to harm me or my family and take things (because that is usually why people intrude into homes) what would anyone consider an appropriate response?

call 911 and hope no harm comes to me or have the means to defend myself?

no it wasn't

my personal feeling is that if you are in my home and you are not supposed to be there, I should be able to warn you that I will shoot you if you do not leave immediately, and then be prepared to do so if they don't

[Vibranium]

no it wasn't

I was under the impression that "intruder" and someone in your house that isn't supposed to be there are the same thing?

[carabas]

Your original scenario just involved a mystery intruder, who was not specifically looking to harm anybody.

my personal feeling is that if you are in my home and you are not supposed to be there, I should be able to warn you that I will shoot you if you do not leave immediately, and then be prepared to do so if they don't

I'm not a fan of the "stand your ground" law

[7thangel]

I was under the impression that "intruder" and someone in your house that isn't supposed to be there are the same thing?

where does it automatically mean they are there to harm you or your family? everything from burglars to drunk neighbors, to asshole kids have broken or walked into homes they thought were empty. you changed the scenario by adding they want to do you harm and are threatening you and your fam, simple as that. therefore the response you quoted is about a different scenario.

[mikekerrIII]

There are a bunch of legitimate reasons an ordinary citizen would want a gun for, none of them require a semi-auto carbine with a 30 round magzine.

They are a lot of fun to shoot/

[Vibranium]

sorry then, I should have been more clear

I don't think anyone roamed into another persons house just to hang out

they are usually there to do bad things

[mikekerrIII]

You are not in the right, you seriously in the wrong. Because human life-or any life-is more important than property, to anyone with any grasp on reality.

Bullshit! the person trying to steal doesn't consider his own ;like more important that my property and I have no reason to think that he would consider my life more important that what he can steal.

[verslibre]

where does it automatically mean they are there to harm you or your family? everything from burglars to drunk neighbors, to asshole kids have broken or walked into homes they thought were empty.

When I go on walks, I like to turn door knobs on the front doors of random houses to see which are unlocked. If they are, I go inside and start helping myself to the fridge. Nothing wrong with that, as long as I don't disturb the tenants. Did I mention this hobby is one I indulge between midnight and sunrise?

[Vibranium]

everything from burglars to drunk neighbors, to asshole kids have broken or walked into homes they thought were empty.

is this a common thing where you live? genuinely curious

here in the northeast, you step into someones house without an invitation, anything that may happen to you would most likely be considered self defense

[7thangel]

When I go on walks, I like to turn door knobs on the front doors of random houses to see which are unlocked. If they are, I go inside and start helping myself to the fridge. Nothing wrong with that, as long as I don't disturb the tenants. Did I mention this hobby is one I indulge between midnight and sunrise?

and every burglar and drunk neighbor is really there to rape and torture you.