Galadriel vs Saruman

[Global Alien]

Both at their best who would win?

[big_adventure]

Galadriel should stomp based on nebulous "elf kick ass" feats, given Saruman's paucity of good feats. Put Saruman back into maian form, of course, and this has an entirely different outcome.

[The Drunkard Kid]

I thought that Saruman the Many Colored was supposed to be his Maian form, more or less.

[Siriel]

No, it was pretty much just him messing with Gandalf. There's no sign that he became any more powerful than he already was.

[The Drunkard Kid]

No, it was pretty much just him messing with Gandalf. There's no sign that he became any more powerful than he already was.

Ah, alright then.

[Sharpandpointies]

Also, they were locked into their mortal forms by the Valar.

Saurman didn't exactly have the oomph to do anything about that.

[Pendaran]

Being a maiar did not besides necessarily help you against the, how to say, hardcore enough of the elves. See all the Balrogs having to fight Feanor en masse, fleeing from his arriving children, and periodic otherwise elven based deaths.

[The Transient Guest]

See all the Balrogs having to fight Feanor en masse, fleeing from his arriving children, and periodic otherwise elven based deaths.

Hey to be fair that one elf had a fountain.

And feat wise isn't Galadriel's biggest thing, well offensively at least, bringing down Dol Guldor's walls and laying it's pits bare? I was gonna say that was her biggest thing but then I remembered....how did Blind Guardian put it.....

We were lost
On grinding ice
In fear and hunger
Dead winter reigned
In Araman

And I was like...oh yeah....the Helcaraxë. That shit sucked.

ANYWAYS. I know a few folks that try to put Galadriel on Feanor+ levels. And for the life of me I don't understand why she gets that much love. Although I do admit to loving making a portmanteau of her's and final Middle-Earth High King of the Noldor's name.

Gil-Galadriel. It's even fun to type.

[Pendaran]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not myself saying Galadriel is on such a scale, I'm just noting, being a maiar is not a gaurantee against an elf based fucking up.

[Surtur]

I loved the one scene from the first movie with Galadriel. She tries to get Frodo to look into the mystical future/past telling pool. "What will I see?" Frodo asks, "even the wisest do not know" she says. So Frodo looks and then she goes "lol I totally know what you saw".

[Pendaran]

I felt that perfectly encapsulated that even the more well meaning Noldor are at their heart, something of a bunch of dicks.

(Well, Finrod, but that guy was like, Captain Noldormerica or something)