Is this a great time to be a DC comic fan?

[tony ingram]

Absolutely, perhaps the best time ever to be a DC comics fan.

You are joking?

[Tobias March]

It survived a the great Final Crisis epic (not to mention Zero Hour, IC and Blackest Night)... just to die ´cuz Zoom wanted to kill Barry's mom and Glinda the good witch of the south decided to pop up and crap all over the place. The ending doesn't make sense and DC's explanation is "some witch came out of nowhere and did it".

See when you put it like that....

I think the suggestion was that this is all part of yet another overarching event down the line. Have further hints been dropped about the woman in red yet?

[MajorHoy]

I think the suggestion was that this is all part of yet another overarching event down the line. Have further hints been dropped about the woman in red yet?

Yeah . . . she's Wanda Maximoff.

[sunofdarkchild]

Yeah . . . she's Wanda Maximoff.

That would explain.....so much.

[Rafa-Rivas-2099]

See when you put it like that....

I think the suggestion was that this is all part of yet another overarching event down the line. Have further hints been dropped about the woman in red yet?

Wsn't it later revealed that despite she popping up in other titles they were thinking it through as they went along with it?

And anyway, it doesn't really matter, it still wouldn't make FP a good revision event.

[Sandor Clegane]

Well, obviously I disagree. For one thing, the amount of change is a factor IMO, though I'll confess the fact that I regarded both the pre-COIE Superman and Wonder Woman as more cardboard cutouts than characters may have a lot to do with why the changes to them didn't affect me.

First, a small side-point: I heavily disagree with that assessment specific to Superman; once you get past the sillier age of wacky Golden Age and Silver Age adventures, the late SA and Bronze Age are a goldmine of thoughtful, well-developed stories about Superman - containing far more pathos and weight than the reductionist 80s/90s take on the character, which was simplified /dumbed down heavily to appeal to the theoretical 1980s teenaged Marvel fan DC was so hot to attract. That era is most notable for containing soap opera and rote storytelling. But setting that aside:

To make an analogy, your disconnect is on par with the pre-Crisis fans that bemoaned the post-Crisis 'ruination' of Superman, Hawkman, the multiverse, et al. Which is not to say they were (or you are) wrong to feel a particular way about changes to fictional characters. We all react to fictional stories emotionally first, and disappointment is a valid emotional reaction, with or without justification or explanation.

But at the same time - it's the same exact thing now as to then.

[Zeeguy91]

I think it's a great time to be a DC fan because of the influx of new writers that are coming into the company, which, to me, looks like it could be signaling a renaissance for DC. Also, on a more general note, it's a great time to be not only a DC fan but a comics fan overall, simply because there are so many great creative teams around now. Over at DC we have: Snyder and Capullo on Batman, Snyder and Paquette on Swamp Thing, Lemire and Pugh on Animal Man, Johns and Mahnke on Green Lantern, Johns and Reis (soon to be Pelletier, I think) on Aquaman, Buccelatto and Manapul on Flash, Azzarello and Chiang on Wonder Woman, and more that I've probably forgotten. Meanwhile, over at Marvel we also have: Waid and Samnee on Daredevil, Waid and Yu on Hulk, Fraction and Aja on Hawkeye, Bendis and Immonen on X-Men, Hickman and Opena coming onto Avengers, Slott on Spider-Man, etc. So, yeah, it's a good time to be a fan of the Big Two.

[Zeeguy91]

You are joking?

No I'm sure he wasn't. Believe it or not Tony, everyone else's enjoyment is not dependent on yours.

[Fate's Faith]

One thing that's really hard to get across to people when talking about eras that are almost thirty years past or more is how things do repeat. I get that people are upset about the current reboot because I was that person years ago. Not to the degree that I was so upset I wouldn't try the new stuff. And some I did like. I just compartmentalized it.

[MajorHoy]

Y'know, maybe it is a great time to be a DC comics fan . . . the more I get frustrated with the New 52, the more titles I stop buying. And the more titles I stop buying, the less money I'm wasting on comic books.

[Coyote2010]

I think it's a great time to be a DC fan for the simple fact that at no point in history has there ever been so much great material from the past available in print. Between Archive Editions, Showcases, Chronicles, Classics Comics Library, various other hardcovers and TPBs of Bronze and Dark Age material, and whatever else.

If I want to read 1970s Phantom Stranger, that stuff is now easily available to me. If I want to read the Bronze Age All-Star revival of the Justice Society, that's no problem, either. Golden Age Wonder Woman? Silver Age Teen Titans? Bronze Age Brave & the Bold? It's all just a 10 minute drive to the LCS away, or a click on amazon. When I was a kid reading comics, a lot of that stuff just wasn't available in any format, or was exorbitantly expensive. So much stuff I never thought I'd get the chance to read. Now, it's around for everyone.

So yeah, a great time to be a fan.

I completely agree, I also think that DCs crazy continuity lends itself to unlimited storytelling with familiar characters. I also love experiments like Wed. Comics and now I'm reading 52!

[MajorHoy]

I completely agree, I also think that DCs crazy continuity lends itself to unlimited storytelling with familiar characters. I also love experiments like Wed. Comics and now I'm reading 52!

You do realize the comic books you mention have nothing whatsoever to do with the current New 52 stuff that has taken over at DC?

[The Darknight Detective]

One thing that's really hard to get across to people when talking about eras that are almost thirty years past or more is how things do repeat. I get that people are upset about the current reboot because I was that person years ago. Not to the degree that I was so upset I wouldn't try the new stuff. And some I did like. I just compartmentalized it.

That's what I did back in the '80s. While I wish COIE could have been handled differently. many good things sprang out of it. Besides, my old comic books didn't disappear. All those stories are still around to enjoy today and possibly forever.

[The Darknight Detective]

To make an analogy, your disconnect is on par with the pre-Crisis fans that bemoaned the post-Crisis 'ruination' of Superman, Hawkman, the multiverse, et al. Which is not to say they were (or you are) wrong to feel a particular way about changes to fictional characters. We all react to fictional stories emotionally first, and disappointment is a valid emotional reaction, with or without justification or explanation.

But at the same time - it's the same exact thing now as to then.

Heh. You and I know that, Sandor, but there have been arguments to the contrary. Yeah, I don't get it, either.