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[mikekerrIII]

Please provide sources for Washington sending women and children of the colonists back to England during the war or FDR sending Jews back to Germany during WWII.

When Washington sent the camp followers away at Valley Forge and other time he was sending those women and children back to british control, every time he retreated he was leaving people in British hands, Doing so was not a big problem becasue at that time those people mostly considered themselves British. FDR refused admittance to multiple ships of refugees from the Nazi's, books and movies have been made about it as it was one of the more shameful events in US history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005139
A large number of those refused admittance died

And yes I am fully aware that FDR put Japanese-Americans in internment camps. Those Japanese-Americans were perceived to be a threat due to their ancestry. Those 40 kids were not perceived to be a threat by Cyke. The former may be morally objectionable but it is not stupid. Sending 40 kids you should be protecting out in a world that wants them dead is. As for the Civil War, I hold no illusions that the North were these saints that all did what is right and honorable. The Civil War didn't end segregation and the lynchings.

Sending the kids who could not defend themselves away from ground zero of any potential attacks was a good idea that didn't work

And I did not go to public school nor did I attend high school in America.

And thus missed a large parts of US history

[LooneyKoala]

Cyclops!!!!!!!!

[remydat]

When Washington sent the camp followers away at Valley Forge and other time he was sending those women and children back to british control, every time he retreated he was leaving people in British hands, Doing so was not a big problem becasue at that time those people mostly considered themselves British. FDR refused admittance to multiple ships of refugees from the Nazi's, books and movies have been made about it as it was one of the more shameful events in US history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005139
A large number of those refused admittance died


Sending the kids who could not defend themselves away from ground zero of any potential attacks was a good idea that didn't work
And thus missed a large parts of US history

Was Cyke in retreat? What other alternative did Washington have? What you describe is not the same as Cyke and Emma giving up on those kids long before any enemy attack required it and when it was an OPTIONAL decision. If Washington's options were retreat or die then he did what he had to do. Cyke and Emma had other options.

And it is indeed shameful but again it is not the same. Those people are not US Citizens. They are not FDR's people. And I am well aware that America and Europe was full of anti-semtism long before Hitler which is one of the reasons Hitler was able to rise to power because while others views were not as extreme as his, many people hated the Jews. If FDR sent US Jewish Citizens away ie those he has a duty to protect like Cyke did those mutant children under his charge then that would be the same.

Again, there are a lot of shitty things people have done but we are talking about Cyke and Emma sending away people they specifically owed an obligation to protect.

And nope, I took US History in college which owing to colleges being pretty liberal, it certainly was not overly biased towards the U.S.