They both had huge influences on the industry and were both active in the '60's.Anyone else see any similarities?.
They both had huge influences on the industry and were both active in the '60's.Anyone else see any similarities?.
Last edited by piloting; 12-20-2012 at 11:14 PM.
I'd argue that Tezuka's role was larger - I mean, Kirby was hugely influential, but comics in general and superhero comics in particular were already well-established before he came around.
Agreed. As far as influence on their medium goes, Tezuka>Kirby.
"I am Shishihime Ikiho! The legendary hero who has lived 5000 years!"
"That's right, and I am a high schooler who couldn't live alone even for a second... and is as cool as the devil himself."
I think it's probably more accurate to say that Tezuka was to manga what Walt Disney was to animation.
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Both were great men and help usher the world of comics and manga (by the way it means the same way) to the world. Majority creators would reference them in their work.
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Tezuka is more like Will Eisner to me.
Kirby's opus is probably the New Gods saga, where he literally crafted a mythology of gods for the contemporary world.
I'm still new to manga, so has Tezuka done anything, that's as epic, mythic, and poignant?
Last edited by Mr. Holmes; 01-21-2013 at 10:57 PM.
Astro Boy had the biggest influence though. Then there's Black Jack.
Kimba did heavily influence Disney's Lion King.
Ode to Kihirito has a special place in my heart. Racism is tackled head on. Religion and fanaticism. Degradation of man shown without even trying to soften the blows. People that act like monsters. Monsters that are people, regardless of how much others try to degrade them. What is a man? At its best.
That said Tezuka wrote like 700 different manga titles so there is plenty to talk about. Pick almost anything in manga and you can trace it back to Tezuka in some way.
And because I just found the quote:
"Manga is virtual. Manga is sentiment. Manga is resistance. Manga is bizarre. Manga is pathos. Manga is destruction. Manga is arrogance. Manga is love. Manga is kitsch. Manga is sense of wonder. Manga is … there is no conclusion yet."
"I am Shishihime Ikiho! The legendary hero who has lived 5000 years!"
"That's right, and I am a high schooler who couldn't live alone even for a second... and is as cool as the devil himself."
"After a long absence, the original Thor returned to his comic book, only to discover that comics in the 90s were very different to what he remembered. But Thor quickly fit right in by going violently insane."
"You know, if everyone the Punisher killed turns out to be no more dead than anyone else who dies in Marvel Comics, he's going to be in BIG trouble one of these days."
- Both from Marvel Year in Review 1993
Thanks. I liked the first volume of Buddha; need to continue. Shame about Phoenix.
I only asked because in another thread we were comparing Tezuka, Moebius, and Kirby.
Thing is, that wasn't really what Tezuka was going for. Where Kirby was interested in building sprawling myths, Tezuka was more about telling as wide a variety of stories as possible, and constantly experimenting with his style. (Though yes, Phoenix would probably qualify as his Fourth World.) That's how the creator of Astro Boy and Kimba also did more adult works like Kirihito, Buddha, and Cleopatra: Queen of Sex. He was really more like Kirby, Eisner, and Disney all rolled into one.
Ode to Kirihito has a special place in my heart too. I can honestly say that it was the only comic, hell probably only book in general, that had my heart racing during an intense moment (Reika's final tempura dip...saw it coming a mile away, but I still couldn't help but get that anxious feeling...).
Comics were happier before the Internet turned writing superhero stories into fruitless attempts to impress/entertain a small group of ppl who appear to hate comics and their creators.
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