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    after they discovered his group in the sewers, swat and armies would roam down there until hes caught.

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    Point One: Commisioner Gordon's eyewitness account wouldn't have been met with skepticism.
    Point Two: In spite of point one, I don't see how Bane could have possibly predicted on any kind of reliable basis that the Gotham police would send nearly 100% of their officers down into the sewers under the guise of a training exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneNecromancer View Post
    He'd probably just be running a Middle Eastern or African country and the West would just be selling him weapons.
    Bane wants to explode the place he's ruling to smithereens, people would probably notice that. Of course, he'd also be blown up at that point as well.
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    How did Bane even plant the bombs around the city without getting caught?
    Last edited by Wild_Child; 12-13-2012 at 03:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild_Child View Post
    How did Bane even plant the bombs around the city without getting caught?
    He used construction companies that Dagget owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild_Child View Post
    How did Bane even plant the bombs around the city without getting caught?
    Because police don't routinely patrol the sewers.

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    Bane probably wouldn't last long. a) I doubt the police would send all the officers not the sewers. b) he'd probably be arrested before he got the chance to plant the bombs. c) the Armed Forces woudl almost certainly have been called in. Bane might be strong, the armed forces have something stronger. Artillery is getting more and more accurate these days, for example. GPS guided missiles, IIRC, can be extremely precise. ( something like within 10 feet.) Yes, I do think the government might resort to measures like that if it gets as far as it did in DKR. No, i don't think the government would remain in power for long afterwards. But a criminal taking over large amounts of a major US city? I don't think they'd accept that.

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    You guys are basically saying that Bane in the real world would enact the same plan step in the movie, but only police would just react differently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam.walters View Post
    If he actually tried to occupy a major city, he would be shot and killed pretty quickly.
    I think also he wouldn't last long doing what he did in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Point One: Commisioner Gordon's eyewitness account wouldn't have been met with skepticism.
    This, to me, isn't so unrealistic. Gordon had been shot and clearly got pretty messed up. I think any crazy stories about an underground army would then be met with a healthy dose of skepticism - it's a pretty wild story. As the audience, we know it's true, but if I told you that there was a secret underground army operating underneath your city, you'd probably think I was some conspiracy nut.

    Point Two: In spite of point one, I don't see how Bane could have possibly predicted on any kind of reliable basis that the Gotham police would send nearly 100% of their officers down into the sewers under the guise of a training exercise.
    Obviously Bane had to improvise a bit, but if Gordon hadn't found out when he did, Bane probably would've begun baiting the cops on his own at some point. The underground tunnels were a labyrinth where he and his army could move around with impunity, eluding the police and inviting a surge, at which point they could enact their explosive plan. Remember, even with Gordon's heads-up, the police didn't surge into the tunnels until after Bane publicly attacked the Wayne Enterprises board.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild_Child View Post
    How did Bane even plant the bombs around the city without getting caught?
    Daggett's construction crews laced the concrete they were pouring with explosives. It was a long-term project.

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    he'd probably be arrested before he got the chance to plant the bombs.
    Only if people knew who Bane was and that he was planting the explosives. The whole point of the plan was that no one knew until it was too late. Did you miss that?

    the Armed Forces woudl almost certainly have been called in. Bane might be strong, the armed forces have something stronger. Artillery is getting more and more accurate these days, for example. GPS guided missiles, IIRC, can be extremely precise. ( something like within 10 feet.)
    Accurate artillery is only helpful if your target stays in one place and you know where he is when you're shooting.

    The US armed forces are the most powerful in the world. But they couldn't handle an insurgency in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Vietnam, no matter how precise their artillery was. It's a pity that, even today, with how recent those mistakes are, there are people who have not learned these basic lessons.

    But a criminal taking over large amounts of a major US city? I don't think they'd accept that.
    I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't "accept" the nuclear annihilation of a major city, either. So between the two, they pick the lesser of the two evils. That was the whole point of the plan.

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    Honestly Bane probably would have won. The government at best would probably send a swat team in at some point to get Bane. Assuming they do, Talia blows the city up. Or they get caught, and Bane gives the go ahead to detonate the bomb. Bane's endgame was always to detonate the bomb, he just wanted people to suffer as much as possible first.

    Batman won because all the right things happened, and they took an all or nothing risk and Bane held off long enough because he thought his men could overpower the cops and that he could overpower Batman. If the army comes in he's not even going to bother. He'll wait till they get as close to the center of the blast radius before putting out one more message to tell everyone to f off. Then boom.

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