Ethnicity Change for DC's Uncle Sam in New 52

[gwangung]

Okay now we are just overreacting over nothing



yeah I'm kind of with you. The concept of Uncle Sam is a little cornball for 2012. Rather just have some dude dressed modernly as the head of the organization

Not cornball if done right.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

I don't really have much interest in Uncle Sam if he doesn't look like you know Uncle Sam, that's kinda half the fun of the character.

Not upset but not really interested ether

Agreed. He's supposed to look like the iconic Uncle Sam image, that was a part of his charm........I wasn't reading the series, though, so whatever.

As for the original Uncle Sam supposedly being too cheesy for this modern era, I felt the portrayal of the character by Geoff Johns in Infinite Crisis was great.

I have no idea why people get upset that DC would update a characters ethnicity, sex or sexuality to better reflect modern times. These characters were created in a white, male dominated time and that's fine. But WHY NOT change it given the chance with the New 52?

I doubt anyone's particularly upset. All these Freedom Fighters titles aren't exactly selling in big numbers, so there aren't many fans out there to voice an opinion, either way.

If you think they should change the ethnicity of characters to better reflect the times (And when better than the DCnU situation?), why do such with B through D-listers? If you want to see ethnicity changes that mean something, why not scream to the skies that they should have changed the ethnicity of Superman, Wonder Woman, and/or the Flash? That would be more of a statement than changing the ethnicity of a character most people don't care about.

I don't see the big deal. This is one of those cases like Electro in the new Spider-Man sequel where you'd really have to reach to be outraged.

I'm not outraged, I just think it's dumb.

As for Electro in the new Spider-Man sequel, I would've preferred his physical imagery stay more true to the original comic character, but I don't really care. I do think they could've chosen a better Black actor than Jamie Foxx for the role, but perhaps he'll surprise me. For some reason, I can't see him playing the character (Then again, I thought the same of Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, but she did remarkably well).

Interesting that they seem to be expanding SHADE.

Father Time.

Uncle Sam.

Mother Superior?

Brother John?

Sister Sledge?

Aunt Flow?

I'd prefer Aunt Esther over Aunt Flow.

[Coal Tiger]

Not cornball if done right.

Ehhh, the guy on posters who wants you to join the army or buy war bonds is one thing, but that same guy dressed up with the top hat and the goatee and the whole outfit going around fighting crime is another.

I like the imagery of the posters, but I don't think he works as a full character.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

Ehhh, the guy on posters who wants you to join the army or buy war bonds is one thing, but that same guy dressed up with the top hat and the goatee and the whole outfit going around fighting crime is another.

I like the imagery of the posters, but I don't think he works as a full character.

He works just fine if written well. Infinite Crisis #1 being a prime example.

[Booshman]

Yes, which is awful by the way.

Hey now, that's a little harsh. It wasn't "awful", it was just a lackluster cartoon that was "far worse than barely passable".

And the new Uncle Sam is fine. This is just an updated look that fits better with our more modern age.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

And the new Uncle Sam is fine. This is just an updated look that fits better with our more modern age.

Updated look that fits better with our more modern age? lol, he looks like a generic government agent who happens to be Black. He's like a third-rate Mr. Bones (An original character I liked, judging by his appearances in Andreyko's old Manhunter series).

[tony ingram]

This is ludicrous. Uncle Sam is not a character you can update-his design was based on an iconic image from American history which is recognized all over the world. This makes no sense.

[the4thpip]

This is ludicrous. Uncle Sam is not a character you can update-his design was based on an iconic image from American history which is recognized all over the world. This makes no sense.

But he evolved into the multi-ethnic Patriot years ago in Ostrander's Spectre, who still had the ability to take on the appearance of Uncle Sam when he felt it was appropriate.

Can't say I liked the design of Patriot, though.

[tony ingram]

But he evolved into the multi-ethnic Patriot years ago in Ostrander's Spectre, who still had the ability to take on the appearance of Uncle Sam when he felt it was appropriate.

Can't say I liked the design of Patriot, though.

And how long did The Patriot last? As I recall, he appeared precisely once after Ostrander introduced him.

[the4thpip]

And how long did The Patriot last? As I recall, he appeared precisely once after Ostrander introduced him.

In JSA: Our Worlds at War, right?

Still, next time Uncle Sam showed up here referenced his Patriot ID and explained that he chose his Uncle Sam look on that occasion. So he can choose other appearances, too.

[stk]

Can't say I liked the design of Patriot, though.

WOW.

That is one bad costume. That costume makes Disco Collar Nightwing and New 52 Tim Drake look like a million bucks.

[Outside_85]

But he evolved into the multi-ethnic Patriot years ago in Ostrander's Spectre, who still had the ability to take on the appearance of Uncle Sam when he felt it was appropriate.

Can't say I liked the design of Patriot, though.

Ah yes, the design-horror of the American talisman.

Interesting that they seem to be expanding SHADE.

Father Time.

Uncle Sam.

Mother Superior?

Brother John?

Sister Sledge?

Aunt Flow?

Brother Blood

Mother Mayhem

Sister Slay

Big Daddy Trigon

:)

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I should have picked up Human Bomb.

[Robotman4]

i really liked Palmiotti and Gray's last 2 Freedom Fighters books so im a bit sad to see those versions of the characters gone. i thought Uncle Sam actually looked kinda cool in the grey trench coat. as far as Sam's current appearance and ethnicity it's pretty clear they're setting him up to be DC's Nick Fury. dont know if it will last but i bet the original will be back some day.

[Sonofspam]

As long as he doesn't wear the Stars and Stripes outfit and it looks to just be a code name i don't see the problem.

I did like the original Uncle Sam as cheesy as it was i thought he had an original power base.