Ra's al Ghul and the Riddler.
The Joker is more an anti-Moriarty.
Moriarty-type enemies have the same basic personality as the hero, the same character thraits, the same methods... They're dark shadows, characters the hero could have been if he'd made different choices.
So for Batman, definitely not the Joker... Ra's Al Ghul is the closest thing he has.
'The marquis. Well, you know, to be honest, he seems a little bit dodgy to me.'
'Mm,' she agreed. 'He's a little bit dodgy in the same way that rats are a little bit covered in fur."
Ras al Ghul. I think he the closest to being batman's match and dark mirror.
Chill!
I say it's Doctor Hurt. He had the ultimate plan and a wealth of resources to try to crack Batman. Like Moriarty, he's a one story villain (Batman RIP/The Final Problem). Hugo Strange is also a contender, but they've downsized his status as a Batman villain.
I will say though I did feel the Moriarty from Sherlock was basically Riddler done right. I hope Snyder has seen Reichenbach Falls
While the actual Moriarty was indeed only in one story, I think the general concept of "A hero's Moriarty" has expanded to specifically include a villain who consistently and frequently eludes, bests, or stalemates with the hero.
To that end, Ra's al Ghul fits the bill a lot better than Doctor Hurt. Also, al Ghul's methodology seems a bit more in line with Batman's. Dr. Hurt is more of a spiritual villain.
I think Hugo Strange's characterization has potential, but he's not used often enough. I think I can count on one hand the number of storylines he's been a major part of for the last 70 years.Hugo Strange is also a contender, but they've downsized his status as a Batman villain.
Yeah. I just wish Sherlock hadn't done it first, as anything else might feel like a rip-off.I will say though I did feel the Moriarty from Sherlock was basically Riddler done right.
Even though he was never ever utilised properly, Dr. Tzin Tzin had the pedigree to be a Conan Doyle/Sax Rohmer combination. He had elements of both James Moriarty and Dr. Fu Manchu in his history.
He was always my favorite Batman Villain, even though I think he only turned up in four or maybe five issues.
"Mistah Joker, he dead."
I think Hurt fits that bill too.
Ra's is more of a Fu Manchu/James Bond villain. Other than the fact that they both have "empires" and pawns, which is kind of generic for supervillains anyway, I don't see it.
His claim to fame is in the original Batman stories which have been retold in Matt Wagner's, where Batman was consciously modeled off Sherlock Holmes. Before Joker became a breakout, they wanted Hugo Strange to be his Moriarty.I think Hugo Strange's characterization has potential, but he's not used often enough. I think I can count on one hand the number of storylines he's been a major part of for the last 70 years.
Joker. THE Batman nemesis!
hmm...
Ra's = Moriarty
Talia = Irene Adler
Hurt and Jezebel = wannabes? pseudos?
I believe Neal Adams has said that Ra's was created so Batman would have a Moriarty, so there's that.
Joker in terms of being his worst enemy
Ras al Ghul in terms of resources and danger and style
Riddler and Hugo Strange in terms of matching wits
Pull List; seems to be too long to fit in my sig...
Probably Bane in terms of him being a dark mirror of Batman. Ra's is more of a global overlord with plans of world domination, Riddler doesn't compare physically and Joker is just too different to be seen as an evil counterpart.
FYI, I've been re-reading the Grant\Breyfogle run over the holidays and it seems apparent the TDKR writers lifted Anarky's class-conscious rhetoric and added it to Bane's persona, which was a rather inspired creative choice.
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