Milestone characters & their appearances in the new 52

[ascended]

I assume one of the problems with DC paying a licensing fee to use the characters stems from how much profit the Milestone characters stand to make.

If, for example, DC wants to drop Icon in the Justice League, then, depending on the details of the agreement, the Milestone owners (McDuffie's estate I assume) would get a check. Same goes for a Static monthly or whatever. And how much profit potential do these guys have? Static had a cartoon and is sort of popular. He certainly has his following among comic fans. But could he make enough, long term and short term, to equal the price DC would have to pay to use him? And if the fees involved cut too deep into DC's profit margin, or the character doesnt pull that much money to begin with, it becomes a loss from the business end of things.

[Robotman4]

http://legendofjustice.tumblr.com/post/37983739935

Well the teaser for the return of Young Justice is up and it features the Milestone characters. Including STATIC getting some dialogue! Maybe the legal issue were cleared up.

[Bruce Kent]

http://legendofjustice.tumblr.com/post/37983739935

Well the teaser for the return of Young Justice is up and it features the Milestone characters. Including STATIC getting some dialogue! Maybe the legal issue were cleared up.

Is that the Guardian close to the end?

[Robotman4]

Apparently The Guardian is gonna be Mal Duncan. He was actually The Guardian for a bit in the 70s.

[Billy the Cat]

I assume one of the problems with DC paying a licensing fee to use the characters stems from how much profit the Milestone characters stand to make.

If, for example, DC wants to drop Icon in the Justice League, then, depending on the details of the agreement, the Milestone owners (McDuffie's estate I assume) would get a check. Same goes for a Static monthly or whatever. And how much profit potential do these guys have? Static had a cartoon and is sort of popular. He certainly has his following among comic fans. But could he make enough, long term and short term, to equal the price DC would have to pay to use him? And if the fees involved cut too deep into DC's profit margin, or the character doesnt pull that much money to begin with, it becomes a loss from the business end of things.

very wrong ! when the deal was made all the money was paid by DC ! They didn't need to pay another penny to Milestone to use ANY characters owned by Milestone !! their was NO MORE FEES to be paid !! WHY DIDN'T DC use them more ??? who knows !! I can make a guess BUT that will all it would be !! so why is STATIC turning up in Young Justice ?? well the FACT is that Waner Bros OWN STATIC SHOCK cartoon and characters in that cartoon show and could have used him since 1996 and put out a comic based on the cartoon as long as it was the new look static could even done a figure of him BUT not toys as their has never been a deal to do that even after Mcduffie pushed for one when making the cartoon !

[G. Boney]

IPersonally I'd like DC to just buy the characters outright, like they have other characters in the past.

I definitely don't want to see that. They'd be nothing but "Big Crossover Event" cannon fodder.

Honestly, they never really had the intention to use the characters. It really seems like they just wanted Static but had to get the rest of Milestone as a packaged deal.

Nope. On his message board Mcduffie said a solo deal could have been struck, seemed somewhat baffled as to why dc didn't do that very thing since like you said they only wanted Static.

[Bruce Kent]

very wrong ! when the deal was made all the money was paid by DC ! They didn't need to pay another penny to Milestone to use ANY characters owned by Milestone !! their was NO MORE FEES to be paid !! WHY DIDN'T DC use them more ??? who knows !! I can make a guess BUT that will all it would be !!

I'm sorry, but that's just not true. McDuffie himself said DC had to pay everytime a character showed up.

[Billy the Cat]

I'm sorry, but that's just not true. McDuffie himself said DC had to pay everytime a character showed up.

I'm sorry but its 100% FACT ! just go to McDuffie website and go in the forums to see him talk again and again about the deal he made ! the only thing DC had to do was to run idea's past him and NOT kill anyone unless HE gave the thumbs up !

[Billy the Cat]

Nope. On his message board Mcduffie said a solo deal could have been struck, seemed somewhat baffled as to why dc didn't do that very thing since like you said they only wanted Static.[/QUOTE]

This is 100% fact as well ! DC (and good old Dan !) wanted the whole thing and made McDuffie use them in JLA months before he was ready too and that was why he was so baffled by them not using them more but he did say at the time of the deal DC planned 2 Milestone titles and also lined up writers and artists working at DC at the time, only to quickly drop them !

[Bruce Kent]

I'm sorry but its 100% FACT ! just go to McDuffie website and go in the forums to see him talk again and again about the deal he made ! the only thing DC had to do was to run idea's past him and NOT kill anyone unless HE gave the thumbs up !

DC has to pay a share of the money made by the comic book where any Milestone character appears. Plus, once the deal expires, DC would loose the hability to reprint those stories.
If what I'm saying is not true, I would appreciate some quotes. I've read what McDuffie said and I'm pretty sure he confirmed what I just said.

[Ood Omega]

Honestly, they never really had the intention to use the characters. It really seems like they just wanted Static but had to get the rest of Milestone as a packaged deal.

One of the reasons I think they embrace Static as opposed to other Milestone characters is the popularity of his cartoon show. It gives those kids a jumping on point into the comic world.

I think a smaller reason could be leftover guilt from how bad Black Vulcan/Black Lightening was in the past. By comparison Static is a dramatic improvement. I'm curious if BV had any influence on McDuffie.

[the4thpip]

One of the reasons I think they embrace Static as opposed to other Milestone characters is the popularity of his cartoon show. It gives those kids a jumping on point into the comic world.

I think a smaller reason could be leftover guilt from how bad Black Vulcan/Black Lightening was in the past. By comparison Static is a dramatic improvement. I'm curious if BV had any influence on McDuffie.

Um.. Black Lightning was bad? Did you ever read the original series, not to mention the absolutely awesome but way too short return by Tony Isabella to the character in the 90s?

[SilverZeal]

One of the reasons I think they embrace Static as opposed to other Milestone characters is the popularity of his cartoon show. It gives those kids a jumping on point into the comic world.

I think a smaller reason could be leftover guilt from how bad Black Vulcan/Black Lightening was in the past. By comparison Static is a dramatic improvement. I'm curious if BV had any influence on McDuffie.

If by embrace u mean rapidly cancelling a Static solo wihout giving it a 2nd chance not bcuz of d xcter itself but d huge creative differences 'bakstage' AAAAAND not hving Static b part of ANY DC 52 team-buk?

Is dat d "embrace"?

If u wanna c "embrace" just luk @ wat DC is doing with Wildstorm xcters.

[Ghost Shark]

Can someone please translate what Silver Zeal just said? I tried to read it, but my eyes started bleeding...

[Ood Omega]

Um.. Black Lightning was bad? Did you ever read the original series, not to mention the absolutely awesome but way too short return by Tony Isabella to the character in the 90s?

No, but I will now thx 4 the recommendation.

If by embrace u mean rapidly cancelling a Static solo wihout giving it a 2nd chance not bcuz of d xcter itself but d huge creative differences 'bakstage' AAAAAND not hving Static b part of ANY DC 52 team-buk?

Is dat d "embrace"?

If u wanna c "embrace" just luk @ wat DC is doing with Wildstorm xcters.

I just meant they use him, compared to all the other Milestone characters in limbo atm. I heard Static would be showing up in Teen Titans in 2013.