A thought experiment: Reverse Composite Martial Artist

[AJ Valliant]

These so-called 'worst' techniques may actually be too good for the Composite.

In fairness it doesn't really count as bad by rumbles standards, just narrative boast. In a movie or comic book setting that is very legit counter. As is breaking you opponents sword bare handed and stabbing him with it.

[AJ Valliant]

Better than taking it on the face, I should say.

One tends to follow the other.


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I have seen people snap bats clean with kicks in Thai, but just as a striking power demonstration, not as a defensive technique.

[Sol M]

That first one seemed familiar until he said "And then you snap the baseball bat with your forearm," then I was like O_____o

Wonder if people who claim that stuff like this works actually bother to give demos of what they're describing?

'cuz something like that would be hilarious enough to be worth seeing.

Dudes doing it deliberately? That's fine. :)

So, if someone makes a video of himself trying a totally rad move, royally screws it up, then goes "Yeah, I totally intended to do that. <_<", that would be acceptable? :P

[Sharpandpointies]

Better than taking it on the face, I should say.

As a last-ditch option, sure.

As the goto-technique taught for dealing with a baseball bat? No. One will likely end up in shock with a broken arm, and potentially a banged up head due to the arm not being enough to stop the bat.

And the second blow to the in-shock, broken-armed defender will finish it.

Suffice to say, as the dude showing this technique points out, there are better first choices for dealing with a baseball bat. :D Crappy situation, but that doesn't mean one has to offer up one's arm for destruction as a primary defense. ^_^

[Sharpandpointies]

In fairness it doesn't really count as bad by rumbles standards, just narrative boast. In a movie or comic book setting that is very legit counter. As is breaking you opponents sword bare handed and stabbing him with it.

I can absolutely see a comic book martial artist pulling this off as a matter of course. :) Standard sort of thing for them to do when attacked by a thug with a bat.

One tends to follow the other.


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I have seen people snap bats clean with kicks in Thai, but just as a striking power demonstration, not as a defensive technique.

They tend to kick them in the less-thick area as well. :) And employing two-point bracing, rather than one-point.

Wonder if people who claim that stuff like this works actually bother to give demos of what they're describing?

'cuz something like that would be hilarious enough to be worth seeing.

No, they don't. Sensei said it would work when it was taught to them, and that's good enough.

Same deal as the nosebone stuff.

So, if someone makes a video of himself trying a totally rad move, royally screws it up, then goes "Yeah, I totally intended to do that. <_<", that would be acceptable? :P

This is a murky area. There's no hard and fast rule of where the line is. Point is, mocking specific people isn't a good thing.

[mailedbypostman1]

Crappy situation, but that doesn't mean one has to offer up one's arm for destruction as a primary defense. ^_^

I'm getting Corim flashbacks for some reason...

[The MunchKING]

He's not the only one.

[Vinegar Mk-II]

The composite gets the subpar strength of the first form of the mad scientist from Crude Buster, Skinny Tiencha's weaknesses/drawbacks, the weaknesses/drawbacks of Pichu from Super Smash Bros Melee, the aiming skills of the stormtroopers from Star Wars, he also gets the fighting skills and clumsiness of Wolverine: Worst there is (Earth-9291). The composite's fighting style consists of knowing and being able to perform badly performed moves like Hong Kong Phooey's dozens of badly performed moves, the Marvel vs. Capcom 2 version of Dan Hibiki's Gadouken, the Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter version of Dan Hibiki's Otoko Michi.

[The MunchKING]

Pichu and the Storm Troopers were Martial Artists??

[Vinegar Mk-II]

I mentioned them as examples of fighters, some people (myself included) believe that fighters, boxers, wrestlers, soldiers and warriors are martial artists regardless of the fighting style they use. I apologize if you disagree with my opinion.

[Sound Silence]

Those are pretty bad.

I've seen as bad as the first one elsewhere. Worst, in fact. The second one?

.....

32 years of researching and practicing martial arts, I've never seen one that optimistic. :)

I don't even see how that second one is even theoretically possible. Like. The first one is conceivable with a nigh-superhuman level of skill and ability and favorable circumstances, but... even if you could flip the knife of your foot, no way would it do that.

That first one seemed familiar until he said "And then you snap the baseball bat with your forearm," then I was like O_____o

The second one... wut?

Yeah, like, I don't know why you'd go through the trouble of breaking the bat, and then using half-a-bat to defeat the guy (after you've already broken the hold you had on his weapon, leaving him open to simply getting punched in the face or whatever).

Oh, it's familiar up until that point, all right.

I mean, blocking a baseball bat with the forearm is incredibly dumb, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone claim that.

Yeah, I'm given to believe hard blocking is just... something you don't do. Because, your body just isn't designed to take blows, even when it comes to blows that your body *can* take, really, you shouldn't actually let them be hitting you.

[Sharpandpointies]

Yeah, I'm given to believe hard blocking is just... something you don't do. Because, your body just isn't designed to take blows, even when it comes to blows that your body *can* take, really, you shouldn't actually let them be hitting you.

It's certainly something one shouldn't do. If one is backed into a wall and, for whatever reason, has no time to get out and there's a baseball bat coming at one's head, and one can't move into the strike or any number of other things...

...screw it, let's say another dude is holding one by the legs... :)

...then as a choice between the bat hitting one in the head or the bat hitting the arm, it's pretty obvious which is preferable.

But that's a last-ditch, no-other-options situation.

[MorphyVSFischer]

I mentioned them as examples of fighters, some people (myself included) believe that fighters, boxers, wrestlers, soldiers and warriors are martial artists regardless of the fighting style they use. I apologize if you disagree with my opinion.

Wrestling and Boxing can be considered a martial arts. Guys with guns not so much.