Whats the worst bat book of the new 52

[Movieartman]

WHAT IN YOUR OPINION IS THE WORST BAT BOOK OF THE NEW 52, Even if your like me and like them all what is the least good among them?

[FHIZ]

I think the winner is Batwing. Not because it's particularly terrible or anything, but any good it had going with it in art, world building, and characters, seems to have been forgotten. Plus it's pretty much on it's death march, so for me it has gotten to the point where it just needs to be cancelled already.

[adam.walters]

I'm not voting because I've only read a few of these, but shouldn't Batwing be on this poll.

[Movieartman]

I'm not voting because I've only read a few of these, but shouldn't Batwing be on this poll.

yes im having it added currently

[MajorHoy]

If it was just Bruce-books, I would have to vote for Batman & Robin at present. (Batman: The Dark Knight and Detective Comics have at least gotten somewhat better since the recent changes.)

But of all the books, I'd have to go with Catwoman, especially with the latest creative changes.

(And since Birds of Prey is included in the Bat-family by DC, shouldn't that also be on the list?)

[JasonTodd428]

My vote would be for Batman and Robin as the worst for various reasons that I'm not getting into because I've already been pretty vocal on that score.

[new_onslaught]

No need fo a poll. That's easy. Right now Catwoman hands down is the worst Bat book and could be the worst of the whole new 52.

[Movieartman]

My vote would be for Batman and Robin as the worst for various reasons that I'm not getting into because I've already been pretty vocal on that score.

If i may ask What was bad about the first arc, with nobody, as i really loved that arc, just bellow court of owls in my opinion. just curious

[MajorHoy]

No need fo a poll. That's easy. Right now Catwoman hands down is the worst Bat book and could be the worst of the whole new 52.

I don't know . . . Green Arrow could also be in the running for possible worst book of the New 52.
(And that was even before the writing was taken over by the same person currently writing Catwoman.)

[catburgler_2100]

I hate to say it but Catwoman since Nocenti came on board, the current art on the book is great but I can't forgive 0 issue :( before Nocenti I would have said dark knight

If Gail Simone stays with dc I'm hoping she comes onto catwoman - I'd love to see her reintroduce catman and do Catwoman vs Catman

[MajorHoy]

If i may ask What was bad about the first arc, with nobody, as i really loved that arc, just bellow court of owls in my opinion. just curious

It was too drawn out, and the information dumps about the origin of Nobody were handled so poorly it was pathetic . . . just chunked in to the middle of the arc for two issues, with the cliche of Batman thinking "I never told you this, son, but . . . " and of course Damian wasn't anywhere around for Bruce to tell him.

That, and Damian's regression back to an obnoxioius brat who you keep hoping will die any moment (but of course he doesn't).

[El Sombrero]

I voted for The Dark Knight, but there sure is competition.

The Dark Knight and Detective Comics were both horrible through their first year. Both then got improved writers, but Tec improved by a good deal more, so TDK is worse. Hurwitz's run has been a disappointment.

Catwoman has gotten real bad and Batwing is irrelevant but those started fairly well which I think takes them out of the running.

I really hate Batgirl but that has more to do with subjective reasons than objective reasons. I mean, I do critically think it's a bad comic book, but not first year of Tec / TDK level bad.

[JasonTodd428]

If i may ask What was bad about the first arc, with nobody, as i really loved that arc, just bellow court of owls in my opinion. just curious

First off, just so we're clear on this, I read the first twelve issues before dropping the title so my complaints are cover all the issues, not just the first arc and I also was a regular reader of the title before the reboot. Overall I found the pacing to be poor, the writing to be heavy handed and extremely predictable, the villains to be subpar or to be bad amalgams for other more well-known villains and I don't care for his portrayal of Damian and several other characters. The only character he seems to have a handle on is Alfred but everyone else's characterizations seem a little off even from other N52 books.

[Phantom Roxas]

Where's Batman, Incorporated? I'm not saying the book is bad, but it only seems fair to list that book for completion's sake.

The only book I can give a fair opinion on is Nightwing, which is far from being a bad book, let alone the worst of the bunch. However, I am baffled that Batgirl is beating Red Hood and the Outlaws.

[MajorHoy]

However, I am baffled that Batgirl is beating Red Hood and the Outlaws.

Batgirl is a very polarizing title . . . some people hate it because
(1.) it's not Cassandra
(2.) it's not Steph
(3.) they took away Babs' Oracle history

plus, it didn't get off to a great start to some people (like myself)

But I myself don't feel it's the worst of the Bat-books.