Why Miles Morales was hated? The real reason!

[atlasjj]

Nah, that particular title does not appeal to me, for other reasons.

But its the only book with a Peter Parker still in it.

[Imhotep397]

For those with complaints look on the bright side...Spidey can now be in the new Avenger's films without any legal battles with Sony!

[OrpheusTelos]

For those with complaints look on the bright side...Spidey can now be in the new Avenger's films without any legal battles with Sony!

How so?

10/c

[Imhotep397]

Sony's option is on the original Peter Parker Spiderman Universe and all the books contained therein. The fact that Peter Parker is dead, probably Dr. Oct will be too shortly, Morales' powers are slightly different and all of the books are no longer actively being published these actions legally will divorce the two Spiderman properties leaving the Miles Morales Spiderman Universe and probably time traveling of that character fill-in past team-ups (if Disney wanted to) and there's absolutely no way to confuse Miles Morales with Peter Parker (which would be a large part of the legal standard for infringement)...It's BRILLIANT from a business and creative standpoint for the ongoing development of the character without continuing to add to Sony's Spiderman chest for films and for giving Disney back the film rights they always should have had to a core Marvel character.

Had they just made Parker's replacement another White guy with similar character attributes it would have made for slippery slope legally.

[wyokid]

[sirchrisdaniels]

Sony's option is on the original Peter Parker Spiderman Universe and all the books contained therein. The fact that Peter Parker is dead, probably Dr. Oct will be too shortly, Morales' powers are slightly different and all of the books are no longer actively being published these actions legally will divorce the two Spiderman properties leaving the Miles Morales Spiderman Universe and probably time traveling of that character fill-in past team-ups (if Disney wanted to) and there's absolutely no way to confuse Miles Morales with Peter Parker (which would be a large part of the legal standard for infringement)...It's BRILLIANT from a business and creative standpoint for the ongoing development of the character without continuing to add to Sony's Spiderman chest for films and for giving Disney back the film rights they always should have had to a core Marvel character.

Had they just made Parker's replacement another White guy with similar character attributes it would have made for slippery slope legally.

Sony has the rights to Spider-Man and characters that are introduced/frequent Spider-Man comics. That pertains to Miles.

[Darman456]

Sony has the rights to Spider-Man and characters that are introduced/frequent Spider-Man comics. That pertains to Miles.

This. Sony owns all things that belong to Spider-Man. They even own Kingpin (Sony has the Kingpin rights that were only on loan to Fox) which would be a pretty big ordeal if Marvel Studios decides to make a Daredevil film. Miles, being under the alias of Spider-Man, has his film rights owned by Sony currently. Some may think that it is good or bad or whatever. But that is the way it is.

[Imhotep397]

I think what you guys are talking about is pretty circumspect since you aren't privy to the actual option contracts. While I also have not seen the contracts with my own eyes knowing how options work and that there was no Miles Morales character or an alternate "Ultimate Comics" line at the time the option contracts were drawn up. Legally Marvel couldn't option something that didn't already exist and an option is not a like a trademark it doesn't autommagically encompass everything with it's trademark name on it. I find it hard to believe that Marvel would sign away all future developments. Because there were multiple lines existing my guess is that Marvel optioned certain lines like "SpiderMan", "Amazing Spiderman" and "Spectacular Spiderman" and maybe "Ultimates: Spiderman." I suspect this is also the reason they will be re-introducing Spiderman 2099 in the comics.

[Heroid]

I think what you guys are talking about is pretty circumspect since you aren't privy to the actual option contracts. While I also have not seen the contracts with my own eyes knowing how options work and that there was no Miles Morales character or an alternate "Ultimate Comics" line at the time the option contracts were drawn up. Legally Marvel couldn't option something that didn't already exist and an option is not a like a trademark it doesn't autommagically encompass everything with it's trademark name on it. I find it hard to believe that Marvel would sign away all future developments. Because there were multiple lines existing my guess is that Marvel optioned certain lines like "SpiderMan", "Amazing Spiderman" and "Spectacular Spiderman" and maybe "Ultimates: Spiderman." I suspect this is also the reason they will be re-introducing Spiderman 2099 in the comics.

DC killed Superboy a few years ago (Conner, not Kal-El) because, even though he was a different character, they were in danger of losing the rights to him in a legal dispute with the descendants of Superman's creators. They brought him back to life and made him Superboy again when the legal issues were settled.

I'm pretty sure that so long as Marvel's Spider-man (whatever his secret ID might be) started out being bitten by a radioactive spider, then he's still pretty much the same property. This would still include both Spock (who is already licensed to Fox by the way) and Miles.

Now if they cancelled Spider-man and created Spiderman (or Spider Man) and Spiderman (or Spider Man) began as the result of a spider crawling inside of a piece of equipment when a scientist was testing a teleportation device with himself as the lab rat, well, that would be an entirely different concept and Fox might not have any claim to it. But that's still a might..