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And yeah Bruce made the identity of Batman up because obviously no one names their kid Batman. That's just a weak argument. Bruce identifies himself as Batman. Who he is in his natural state and around people who know the secret is Batman. Not Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne is just his legal name.
People try and say otherwise by spouting one or two stories that say otherwise, but those two stories pale in comparison to the hundreds if not thousands that show Batman is the real character and Bruce is the mask.
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I'd love to see anyone else as Batman. I always thought part of the mythos of Batman was the whole him being a symbol/idea, that he could be anyone. But that's not true at all. Batman is Bruce Wayne. There's been a little time off, but he's always the same in the end.
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Personally, I can't stand the whole "Batman is the real guy, Bruce is the mask thing" and prefer both Batman and Bruce Wayne (the billionaire playboy) to be the masks of Bruce Wayne (the guy who created Batman)
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I think Tim is the better spiritual successor to Bruce. He has a more similar style and background. I enjoyed Dick as Batman but was glad to have him as Nightwing again.
Dick was never comfortable being Batman and that made sense.
I always thought out of the robin's Dick was the obvious choice (taking out the nightwing question) but wasn't Dck's batman always drawn slimmer?
Last edited by R0NIN; 12-11-2012 at 05:01 PM.
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But, to be honest, I quite like it when there's very little between the three of them. It's just that when he's trying to do what's right, Farm Boy Clark will use all the powers available to him as a farm boy, Reporter Clark would use the full extent of his skills, and Superman would use the full extent of his powers. But beyond that, personality wise, I quite like Clark to be as similar to Superman as an off-duty cop is to his uniformed self.
True. But as part of The Trinity for much of that time. With Wonder Woman, who was definately Wonder Woman first - personally and professionally - and Superman was never really anything but perfectly at ease with Being Superman.... I can imagine it getting to the point where Superman felt he knew "Batman" better than "Bruce". In terms of their role, rather than their personality.I also don't think that Superman would believe that Bruce Wayne was a mask. Aside from Dick Grayson and Alfred, no one should know Batman better than Superman. In the previous continuity they've been friends for more than 10 years.
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And one of Black Mirror's elements could have been how JJ was the black mirror of Dicky, but that doesn't change the fact that he was overshadowed by Jim Gordon who seemed like the star of that story. I mean could you imagine Jim coming to Bruce and telling him he thinks his son might be a serial killer, and him responding with the same limp shoulder shrugging response. "Oh you think your son's a serial killer. . .oh ok, I guess I can have a chat with him, where I will stare into his dead serial killer eyes and listen to his creepy, flat not normal way of speaking and come to the conclusion that "eh, i don't know."
Yes until Tim Drake can take over then Dick can go back and do his thing.
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