Team Mortal Kombat vs Team Street Fighter

[paki]

Goro
Kintaro
Motaro

vs

E Honda
Zangief
Blanka
T Hawk
Sagat

[Guy Smiley]

Since I am pretty much sure none of these guys have any feats in-game, we'll be using comic versions, I guess? Or composite? Goro had a less-than-stellar showing in the movie, for instance. There have been a few SF animes, but they usually focus around Ryu and Ken, don't they?

[mailedbypostman1]

Zangief wrestled bears in a tornado.

That's all I got

[Mormel]

Zangief wrestled bears in a tornado.

That's all I got

Well, it's one thing to wrestle a bear.

Another thing entirely to wrestle a four-armed half-dragon warrior while his buddy is setting himself up to donkey kick the snot out of you.

[Sharkerbob]

The MK crew are probably about as all over the place for feats as the SF crew, due to numerous different versions existing across various media.

Canonically, the normal human fighters of the MKverse are capable of taking down the Shokan and Centaur, so I don't see them just stomping the SF crew. However, in at least one of the comics, Goro was supposedly whooping the shit out of the human fighters of the first game, with only Raiden being able to stand up to him in combat. In the same universe, Kintaro wasn't too far behind in terms of power, but was overshadowed by Goro. But, that's a rather obscure comic.

Eh, none of the three MK guys have been sickenly overpowered like some versions of Akuma, so facing five of the stronger SF fighters at once, they should be able to take it. If nothing else, Blanka can probably keep one of them busy while the SF double up on the remaining to so as to better their odds.

[Mormel]

The MK crew are probably about as all over the place for feats as the SF crew, due to numerous different versions existing across various media.

Canonically, the normal human fighters of the MKverse are capable of taking down the Shokan and Centaur, so I don't see them just stomping the SF crew. However, in at least one of the comics, Goro was supposedly whooping the shit out of the human fighters of the first game, with only Raiden being able to stand up to him in combat. In the same universe, Kintaro wasn't too far behind in terms of power, but was overshadowed by Goro. But, that's a rather obscure comic.

Couldn't the Shokans' and Motaro's jobbing to the Earthrealm warriors, be blamed on plot induced stupidity? I don't know about the comics, but the movie seems to present Goro as all brute force and no brain (taking a ludicrous sucker punch from Cage), while the in-game storyline has gone on to establish him as a cunning fighter and an excellent military strategist.
Bloodlusted, I wonder how these three will fare.

Eh, none of the three MK guys have been sickenly overpowered like some versions of Akuma, so facing five of the stronger SF fighters at once, they should be able to take it. If nothing else, Blanka can probably keep one of them busy while the SF double up on the remaining to so as to better their odds.

'Stronger'? Blanka, Honda, and Zangief aren't exactly who I have in mind when I'm thinking of the higher-tier SF fighters. I think the only one of these 5 who has been canonically established to be champion material, is Sagat. I'd put Guile and Chun-Li before the remaining 4 guys in this bunch, because they all mainly rely on muscle rather than technique. So, 'stronger', physically, yes, but that would avail them little against the likes of Goro and Motaro. They're not very ranged, and at least two of them have fighting styles that highly depend on grapples. Close-ranging a Shokan is a no-no.

[Sharkerbob]

Couldn't the Shokans' and Motaro's jobbing to the Earthrealm warriors, be blamed on plot induced stupidity?

Why is it jobbing? These are humans with magical and techno-enhanced powers. Plus, I doubt it was an easy fight. That sound, how strong, exactly, are these guys? I'm sure they can wrestle bears, but are they actually super-strong beyond their physiques?

I don't know about the comics, but the movie seems to present Goro as all brute force and no brain (taking a ludicrous sucker punch from Cage), while the in-game storyline has gone on to establish him as a cunning fighter and an excellent military strategist. Bloodlusted, I wonder how these three will fare.

Probably pretty well, and I figure they're already bloodlusted in character. I give the MK guys the majority, actually. I'm just saying its not beyond the realm of possibility for the SF crew to win.

'Stronger'? Blanka, Honda, and Zangief aren't exactly who I have in mind when I'm thinking of the higher-tier SF fighters. I think the only one of these 5 who has been canonically established to be champion material, is Sagat. I'd put Guile and Chun-Li before the remaining 4 guys in this bunch, because they all mainly rely on muscle rather than technique. So, 'stronger', physically, yes, but that would avail them little against the likes of Goro and Motaro. They're not very ranged, and at least two of them have fighting styles that highly depend on grapples. Close-ranging a Shokan is a no-no.

I meant stronger as in actual muscular strength. I figure Blanka can pounce on one of them and keep electrocuting him to keep him down, and if they are strong enough, the other four can pair off against the remaining two.

Of course, nothing's really stopping the Shokans from just blasting the SF group with fire breath over and over, so there is that.

[Siriel]

Of course, nothing's really stopping the Shokans from just blasting the SF group with fire breath over and over, so there is that.

Sagat can crouch while firing his projectile.

Game.Set.Match.

[mailedbypostman1]

Sagat can crouch while firing his projectile.

Game.Set.Match.

and so the match was won...by tiger shots.

[Sharkerbob]

Sagat can crouch while firing his projectile.

Game.Set.Match.

Well, there you go then. :P

[Mormel]

Why is it jobbing? These are humans with magical and techno-enhanced powers. Plus, I doubt it was an easy fight. That sound, how strong, exactly, are these guys? I'm sure they can wrestle bears, but are they actually super-strong beyond their physiques?

Oh, I was mainly referring to fights in the key of Johnny Cage v. Goro in the first movie. In that one, Goro doesn't land a finger on Cage, when he had previously been shown to be a very difficult opponent in his match against Cage's buddy. Greatest anticlimax in the film; he's taken out like an amateur.

In-game, Goro is shown casually pulverizing a stone pillar with a punch (the opening to MK: Shaolin Monks). Goro's ending in Deception, which is not canon, suggests that an army of Shokans can defeat an army of Tarkatans (Baraka's species) probably equal in number of troops.

I'm not sure if this is a strike against the Shokans, but in Shaolin Monks it's also implied that Kung Lao is powerful enough to rip Kintaro's arms off. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of durability feats for the Shokans.

Probably pretty well, and I figure they're already bloodlusted in character. I give the MK guys the majority, actually. I'm just saying its not beyond the realm of possibility for the SF crew to win.

I thought bloodlust in Rumbles referred to the character fighting to the best of their abilities, free from PIS and other circumstances, and not so much a literal lust for blood.

I meant stronger as in actual muscular strength. I figure Blanka can pounce on one of them and keep electrocuting him to keep him down, and if they are strong enough, the other four can pair off against the remaining two.

Of course, nothing's really stopping the Shokans from just blasting the SF group with fire breath over and over, so there is that.

Ah, I see.

But here, I wonder how Blanka could pounce without being punched in mid-air, caught in a grip, or intercepted by Kintaro's own stomping move. Beside Blanka and Sagat, none of these SF characters have ki attacks, so they're arguably less of a challenge than the magic/tech-enhanced MK characters that Goro & co. usually face. Honda may stand a chance because he has a greater range, with his flying headbutt move, and his Hundred Slaps.

Sagat can crouch while firing his projectile.

Game.Set.Match.

Yeah, good luck with that against Motaro, who has automatic projectile deflection.

[Sharkerbob]

Oh, I was mainly referring to fights in the key of Johnny Cage v. Goro in the first movie. In that one, Goro doesn't land a finger on Cage, when he had previously been shown to be a very difficult opponent in his match against Cage's buddy. Greatest anticlimax in the film; he's taken out like an amateur.

True, that was pretty weaksauce on Goro's part.

In-game, Goro is shown casually pulverizing a stone pillar with a punch (the opening to MK: Shaolin Monks). Goro's ending in Deception, which is not canon, suggests that an army of Shokans can defeat an army of Tarkatans (Baraka's species) probably equal in number of troops.

I'm not sure if this is a strike against the Shokans, but in Shaolin Monks it's also implied that Kung Lao is powerful enough to rip Kintaro's arms off. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of durability feats for the Shokans.

Ah, point. I played Shaolin Monks, but I forgot the pillar feat.

That was a fatality move on Kung Lao's part, right? If so, those are always of dubious canon.

I thought bloodlust in Rumbles referred to the character fighting to the best of their abilities, free from PIS and other circumstances, and not so much a literal lust for blood.

Well, the MK bosses seem like they wouldn't hold back in the first place, I meant, but yeah, no PIS either, so no lucky nut shots for the SF crew.

Ah, I see.

But here, I wonder how Blanka could pounce without being punched in mid-air, caught in a grip, or intercepted by Kintaro's own stomping move. Beside Blanka and Sagat, none of these SF characters have ki attacks, so they're arguably less of a challenge than the magic/tech-enhanced MK characters that Goro & co. usually face.

Point.

[Guy Smiley]

Yeah, good luck with that against Motaro, who has automatic projectile deflection.

And even if he didn't, the bastard teleports (which the computer likes to do a split-second before your attack is going to land) and has plenty of ranged attacks that can hit crouching enemies.