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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine12 View Post
    That doesn't make sense to me, but thanks for the info.
    I would assume that it's because any old shmuck could forge a signature in hopes that it will increase the value of his comics, so unless there is an official witness it's just ink drawn on your comic, which by that very definition decreases the value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine12 View Post
    That doesn't make sense to me, but thanks for the info.
    Think about it. I have a few DF signed books. What is to stop me from sliding them out, selling them for a slight mark up because they are signed, signing the exact same book and sliding it into the DF bag, and then sending it off to CGC? Now I have two signed books that I can sell.

    CGC SS is pretty strict and it gives buyers a guarantee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    I would assume that it's because any old shmuck could forge a signature in hopes that it will increase the value of his comics, so unless there is an official witness it's just ink drawn on your comic, which by that very definition decreases the value.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris S. View Post
    Think about it. I have a few DF signed books. What is to stop me from sliding them out, selling them for a slight mark up because they are signed, signing the exact same book and sliding it into the DF bag, and then sending it off to CGC? Now I have two signed books that I can sell.

    CGC SS is pretty strict and it gives buyers a guarantee.
    I understand that, but I have a certificate of authenticity which I thought may hold weight in the situation. It doesn't so no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plawsky View Post
    Oh yeah, for a personal collection, there's nothing wrong with an autograph. But it doesn't help resell value unless you've got a certificate of authenticity or CGC signature series.

    Anyway, as to your goal of buying the whole run for under $1000, that shouldn't be a problem. Everything from #10 on should be easy to find at $1 per issue. And even at $3 per issue from #11 to #160 would leave you $550 to spend on the first ten. There's no way I'd spend a grand on the full run.
    Yeah, comic shops that I've been to have generally charged $3.25 for nm books.. so I decided to lower my goal to under $700. Do you think I should go lower? Give me a challenge and I'll proudly take it.. but keep in mind I don't want any crummy copies.

    Here's a link to the Blog I just started to document my quest. I'm gonna stick with it to keep my own memories if no one reads it.. but it would be pretty cool if some people were interested:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    The ONLY issue of Ultimate Spidey I don't own is #1. I do, however, have the reprint and that's good enough for me because the only place near me that actually has one for sale wants $300 for it and I'm not willing to spend that :P
    Good call man, hold out for a deal.. I'm not gonna be the last person to ever find one for $100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine12 View Post
    I understand that, but I have a certificate of authenticity which I thought may hold weight in the situation. It doesn't so no big deal.
    Yes and the DF books sell for a bit more because of the certificate of Authenticity. You at least have that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    Yeah, comic shops that I've been to have generally charged $3.25 for nm books.. so I decided to lower my goal to under $700. Do you think I should go lower? Give me a challenge and I'll proudly take it.. but keep in mind I don't want any crummy copies.

    Here's a link to the Blog I just started to document my quest. I'm gonna stick with it to keep my own memories if no one reads it.. but it would be pretty cool if some people were interested:
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    Personally, I probably wouldn't pay more than $400 for the whole run. And considering you can find from #10 to #160 for a buck a piece (if not less), it shouldn't be too hard to get #1-9 for $250. I try to keep things as close to a dollar per issue as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris S. View Post
    Yes and the DF books sell for a bit more because of the certificate of Authenticity. You at least have that.
    Yeah I got the book for a steal, I got it for about $75 and I see it on ebay from $125-$300+. Too bad I don't want to sell it

    Edit: I just looked on Ebay and there is one listed for $1,200 I think that is a bit too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris S. View Post
    CGC needs to present when it was signed. It will actually hurt the grade and it might even get a green label which is bad. That is the unfortunate thing about Dynamic Forces sketches.

    Sorry!
    Even if you get a third party professional to authenticate it and give it a certificate of authenticity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plawsky View Post
    Personally, I probably wouldn't pay more than $400 for the whole run. And considering you can find from #10 to #160 for a buck a piece (if not less), it shouldn't be too hard to get #1-9 for $250. I try to keep things as close to a dollar per issue as possible.
    $400 is really low.. I need a realistic number.. not what you would be willing to pay. After the first 10, i'm still expecting to pay about $3.25 an issue because thats what its been everywhere I've gone. Yeah I'll be travelling far and wide and I'll get lucky with some and pay very little.. but if I find an issue I don't have for $3.25 i'm buying it. So take that into account

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    $400 is really low.. I need a realistic number.. not what you would be willing to pay. After the first 10, i'm still expecting to pay about $3.25 an issue because thats what its been everywhere I've gone. Yeah I'll be travelling far and wide and I'll get lucky with some and pay very little.. but if I find an issue I don't have for $3.25 i'm buying it. So take that into account
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    I got my early issues of Ultimate Spider-Man from Here and Here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codah View Post
    Oh, that's the company I used to grade for.
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    Anybody know of a place where I can buy a protective case for a comic that will preserve it as well as the CPG one while still allowing me to open it whenever I want? I don't really feel like getting anything graded right now, but I will want to in the future.. and I'd like to get a case that I can rely on to keep my best book in mint condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    $400 is really low.. I need a realistic number.. not what you would be willing to pay. After the first 10, i'm still expecting to pay about $3.25 an issue because thats what its been everywhere I've gone. Yeah I'll be travelling far and wide and I'll get lucky with some and pay very little.. but if I find an issue I don't have for $3.25 i'm buying it. So take that into account
    Well if you want to go for it that way, then that's your prerogative. But honestly, it's just throwing money away. Now, if the hunt is worth that to you, then by all means go for it. Personally, I'd just go to comic collector live and call it a day.
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