Ruining my childhood

[Rosebunse]

Also it can save you a ton of money.

If I find that a spoiled story doesn't interest me, I don't pick up the book. However, I've picked up a few books because of getting spoiled on CBR, so it works both ways...

[Superior Big Time Dave]

To bad the preview that's out completely kills your theory

It doesn't actually kill my theory if you think of the previous "Parker" identity as a limit imposed upon the individual we've been reading about all along.

As I've said before, it's the same person under the mask....the person who we've known as Peter Parker, only without the limitation of that identity...therefor making him "Superior"

[Mark_S]

It doesn't actually kill my theory if you think of the previous "Parker" identity as a limit imposed upon the individual we've been reading about all along.

As I've said before, it's the same person under the mask....the person who we've known as Peter Parker, only without the limitation of that identity...therefor making him "Superior"

Depends on how you define "Superior". What were the limitations?

[Superior Big Time Dave]

Depends on how you define "Superior". What were the limitations?

One might consider "With great power comes great responsibility" a limitation. Without being held back by such a philosophy, this "Superior" Spiderman can be more affective. Now, affectrive in doing what remains to be seen. This Superior Spiderman may choose to be a more affective hero. Or, without such a "limitation" as Great power/great responsibility, this version of Peter Parker/Spiderman may feel that taking care of #1....himself...makes him superior to the Parker identity he had up until this point.

[Mark_S]

One might consider "With great power comes great responsibility" a limitation. Without being held back by such a philosophy, this "Superior" Spiderman can be more affective. Now, affectrive in doing what remains to be seen. This Superior Spiderman may choose to be a more affective hero. Or, without such a "limitation" as Great power/great responsibility, this version of Peter Parker/Spiderman may feel that taking care of #1....himself...makes him superior to the Parker identity he had up until this point.

True, being selfish might make his life easier. Personally I think giving up the Spiderman identity would make sense as there are tones of other superpowered people in the mu and living up to the idea of great power/great responsibility has never really gotten Peter anywhere. And if there is anyplace nobility is scorned its the marvel universe. Completely abandoning what has been the core of the character is no different from what they did to Iron Man or Captain America.

[Lars C]

Being selfish makes life easier? Is that what kids are supposed to learn when reading Spidey? Is "with great power comes great responsibility" not valid anymore, you mean?

[Superior Big Time Dave]

True, being selfish might make his life easier. Personally I think giving up the Spiderman identity would make sense as there are tones of other superpowered people in the mu and living up to the idea of great power/great responsibility has never really gotten Peter anywhere. And if there is anyplace nobility is scorned its the marvel universe. Completely abandoning what has been the core of the character is no different from what they did to Iron Man or Captain America.

I think thats what Slott was getting at when he said he was going to ruin our childhoods. I think he's going to introduce a story that suggests to us that what we've come to see as being the core of Peter Parker/Spiderman for the last 5 decades, has never been whom the character truly was in terms of his beliefs and outlook, and that this "new" Superior Spiderman...who will STILL be Peter Parker....will be the new status quo from here on out. (until, of course, it all gets undone a couple/few years done the road)

[TonyStark1012]

It takes time to move on. I stayed with marvel comics for two years before I took TonyStark1012's advice and just stopped buying them. At least at full price. It's far easier to take stories you don't like or don't like that much when you fish them out of the discount bins or wait for the trades. Remember this years Big Event is next years half price off. But everyone has to decided when to leave and why on their own. Best thing to do is not to pay attention to the authors and the editors, that was a mistake I made during my last years at marvel. The more you listen to them the more condescending and arrogant they sound. This remark was a good indication of what you can expect. Read the titles only and if you see sloppy editing and bad characterization and plotting just don't pick up the next one or start reading them quickly in the store until you can just skip past them. Of course it is hard, paying attention to comics and ignoring marvel is like paying attention to astronomy and not looking at the moon.
And try not to argue too much on the net because take it from someone who has learned the hard way the arguments can eat into your life if you are not careful. Trust me you can call the color blue the color blue on the internet and odds are someone will tell you that you are wrong.

In agreement with you on most of your points here brother. You've given some good advice.

[ShaggyB]

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I get that some Superior Spider-man pages have been illegally leaked to the web and are being covered by another site, that does not change that the scans are illegally obtained. DO NOT POST LINKS TO PIRATED MATERIALS.

Likewise, we arent discussing spoilers to a comic that comes out in january until either the preview is officially released or the comic is officially available.

Feel free to PM each other about your feelings on the leaked images.... but no posting about it on the boards until its officially available.

[Mark_S]

I think thats what Slott was getting at when he said he was going to ruin our childhoods. I think he's going to introduce a story that suggests to us that what we've come to see as being the core of Peter Parker/Spiderman for the last 5 decades, has never been whom the character truly was in terms of his beliefs and outlook, and that this "new" Superior Spiderman...who will STILL be Peter Parker....will be the new status quo from here on out. (until, of course, it all gets undone a couple/few years done the road)

Moral standards at marvel have shifted a lot in my opinion. I think this new Spiderman might just reflect the ends justify the means, mercy is for the weak, only the strong survive mentality that is the status quo.

[Mark_S]

Being selfish makes life easier? Is that what kids are supposed to learn when reading Spidey? Is "with great power comes great responsibility" not valid anymore, you mean?

You'd have to ask Slott but I don't expect you'd get anything but a dismissive "Get away boy, you're bothering me" type of answer. They want you to read the title after all. But given what I said in my last post then yea, maybe the whole power=responsibility equation is as meaningless at marvel now as the US constitution was during civil war and the last She-Hulk series that Slot wrote.