"What oldschool said"
The Shadow, 2008
I love that people are complaining that about the scientific method used to swap bodies and how it doesn't make sense.
It's not real.
"Dan Slott was also unbelievably helpful during this period as he helped me formulate some of the ideas that eventually be used in "OMIT." Dan is a champ and an idea machine" - Joey Q
I want Otto (in mind and body) to get his proper comeuppance.. no twilight zone ending!
I think Slott is doing a good job of putting a new spin on an old cliche whilst setting up the new 'superior' spider-man in this arc - my guess, based on what I've seen so far is as follows - from the various threads I think others are thinking along similar lines:
This mind swap is not your usual comic book mind swap - Peter's mind (REAL PETER) hasn't been overwritten and replaced, more suppressed along with his memories and a COPY of Ock's consciousness (OCK COPY) has been added to Peter's mind in such a way that it is CURRENTLY dominant. Same for Ock, only with Peter's consciousness copy (PETE COPY) dominant over REAL OCK. This sets up all sorts of tricky get out clauses and story possibilities but also raises some interesting philosophical questions and possibilities. Over time, REAL PETE will try and overcome or at least influence COPY OCK attenuating his actions by preventing him from killing someone for example. Similarly PETE COPY is being influenced by REAL OCK (we see this clearly in 699). My theory is that OCK's BODY will die with PETE COPY still in control, allowing us to 'experience' the death of peter parker from his viewpoint... this death might happen whilst PETE COPY is performing some heroic sacrifice or preventing OCK from being evil in someway. PETE COPY's death will either reactivate REAL PETE or influence OCK COPY into being more heroic. This leads to the Superior Spider-Man being....
COPY OCK in control but being influenced by REAL PETE to be a hero (or at least a selfish anti-hero)
REAL PETE in control but being influenced by COPY OCK giving him a dark or villainous edge...
COPY OCK and REAL PETE vie for control of REAL PETE's body, Jekyll and Hyde style or more Grey Hulk / Banner style but both influencing each other.
So, good 'Peter Parker' dies (and we see it happen / experience his afterlife scene like the previews show), but REAL PETE MIND and BODY are still here for the inevitable return to status quo around 12-18 months time. Superior Spider-Man is NOT 'Peter Parker' but he is really sort of. New merged Peter / Ock goes around the Marvel universe for a year or so interacting with friends and enemies in strange, new ways (the Daredevil team up being one of the first), people start to notice something is wrong but can't quite work out what etc etc then Superior Spider-Man over steps the mark somehow forcing others / REAL PETE to step in and sort it out.
Lots of possible story opportunities, we get a NEW Spider-Man, kill 'Peter Parker' but in such a way everything can be reset to more or less normal without the writer being accused of actually cheating.
The other thing is this is a really terrible thing for Ock to do to Peter, truly cementing him forever as a true arch-nemesis for Spidey in the same way killing Gwen did for the Norman Osborn / Goblin.
Just leaves the question of how do we get OCK back? I don't know, probably a cloned body of REAL PETE or REAL OCK.. this throws the Jackel into the mix too (who not so coincidentally has been popping up in Slott stories for a while too).
We never actually saw the octobot tinkering with Otto's brain. so the idea that it was some type of remote / wireless transfer of information is problematic for me. Otherwise I'd say fine, I can buy into it.
Forgot to add... at some point in Superior Spider-Man, COPY OCK or whoever is in control will be forced to lift a really heavy object against all odds, harking back to the classic Dikto panel from the master planner story line :-)
Last edited by TheOther; 12-06-2012 at 12:51 PM.
It features several important beats for Amazing 700, and for future issues. Spider-Man learns how the mind-swap occurred. And he escapes prison. He also learns that Connors is stuck in the Lizard's body.
Filler is usually used to describe stories in which nothing of consequence happens, where a reader won't miss anything by not picking up the issues.
What Would Spidey Do?
Paste Pot Pete is totally gonna become a legitimate threat after #700. This is his moment to shine.
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If nihilism didn't take some delight in destruction one might suspect nihilists were an unnaturally morbid sort.
Last edited by stillanerd; 12-06-2012 at 12:20 PM.