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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Slott View Post
    I'm going to make this very simple.
    This is from someone who's worked over 20 years in this industry and written over 1 out of every 10 issues of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN.

    No man on Earth could have drawn SPIDER-ISLAND other than Humberto Ramos.

    No one could have stuck to or maintained that grueling schedule and have that book-- with most issues going over the regular page count-- with IMMENSE crowd shots on every other page-- and HIT those deadlines without dropping a stitch-- in a book where EVERY issue had crossovers and tie-in issues playing into it.

    He did it with style.
    He did it with intensity.
    He did it with artistry.
    And he did it with a work ethic to which I have NEVER seen equaled.

    Every single artist who has ever drawn a page of a comic will have their fans AND detractors.

    I'm not saying this as a fan.
    I'm saying this as a pro.
    Humberto Ramos is one of the finest Spider-Man artists to grace a Marvel Comic.

    'Nuff Said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Slott View Post
    Humberto Ramos is one of the finest Spider-Man artists to grace a Marvel Comic.
    Here here.

    Spider-Man, like many characters that have been being published for 50 years or more, has been portrayed by many different artists, with many different styles. Some have been super popular, and have then been emulated by others, and have evolved out of that as artists (ie John Romita -> Gil Kane -> Sal Buscema or Todd McFarlane -> Erik Larsen -> Mark Bagley).

    Humberto Ramos has a style that is all his own, and while I'm sure he has his influences, his version of Spider-Man is HIS Spider-Man alone. And as far as I'm concerned, his version is easily one of the top ten interpretations of the character, maybe even top 5.

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    Ramos did excellent work on Spider Island. I couldn't imagine any other artist for that story - his drawing style is a bit weird and cartoony, and so was Spider Island.

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    His art is terrible.

    Sorry Ramos, I'm sure you're a nice guy but no, I do not like your artwork.
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    He's like a poor man's, J Scott Campbell, and I don't like his art neither...

    If it's a real important issue (like #700) and he's on art, I'll still get it, but I tend to skip the issue's, that he draws...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesedique View Post
    I wish they would get one clean, non-sketchy artist to be the sole penciler on ASM. Someone like McKone, Rivera or Kitson.
    Or, they could of had those three artist be the new rotating art team on SSM, I like Stegman, but this would be the perfect time (new #1) to switch things up.

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    Ramos is great, great and great Spider-man artist. Everybody has their tastes, and I can understand the diversity of views on this guy, but he Is damn good. Thank you Dan for still keeping him on Superior.
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    Rivera is busy with hus own project. I miss him on Daredevil, but Chris Samnee is great too. And the people who complain on Ramos should at least like Stegman. Talk about dynamic artist! Stegman and Ramos is one good argument to at least try Superior #1 out.

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    I just don't like Ramos' artwork.
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    Proves the point that Dan Slott felt obligated to defend Ramos's output. How often does that happen? Ramos could be a very nice guy for all I know and very fast as well (so was Vince Colletta and many other hacks) but his work turns off many people and is detrimental to sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish Kabbible View Post
    Proves the point that Dan Slott felt obligated to defend Ramos's output. How often does that happen?
    How often does Dan Slott post on these boards when he things fan comments are getting too nasty in regards to a creator? Well, I can think of at least three similar instances off the top of my head, because the Slottster is awesome like that. I don't think this proves...well, anything.

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    Ramos is without a doubt a talented artist, but his style is very polarizing. I understand why people wouldn't want a polarizing style on a flagship title, but it doesn't seem to affect sales enough to change.

    I don't agree that Ramos is the only one who could've handled Spider-Island. There are PLENTY of artists who meet deadlines with stellar quality, and plenty could have complemented the eerie story.

    Personally, I hope that someday we can have Tony Moore or Jerome Opena draw a Spidey story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish Kabbible View Post
    Proves the point that Dan Slott felt obligated to defend Ramos's output. How often does that happen? Ramos could be a very nice guy for all I know and very fast as well (so was Vince Colletta and many other hacks) but his work turns off many people and is detrimental to sales
    i doubt that he's really detrimental to sales :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randumbz View Post
    i doubt that he's really detrimental to sales :/
    The team of Snyder/Capullo are bringing in close to 150,000 in sales of batman per issue, while the team of Slott/Ramos are bringing in around 58,000 in sales per issue of Amazing Spider-Man. Why is there such a large discrepancy right now in sales between each company's flagship book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newwave View Post
    The team of Snyder/Capullo are bringing in close to 150,000 in sales of batman per issue, while the team of Slott/Ramos are bringing in around 58,000 in sales per issue of Amazing Spider-Man. Why is there such a large discrepancy right now in sales between each company's flagship book?
    I was about to be all serious but then realized... this has to be a joke.
    Bad news everyone...

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