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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish Kabbible View Post
    Terrible artist,worst employed by Marvel in many many years. I could vomit on a canvas and it would look better. I paper trained my dog with this guy's "artwork". Who is punishing us that he continues to get work? In a steel cage death match between Ramos and liefeld, god help me I would have to root for Rob.
    Can't you just say you don't care for it and why? Seems like a very personal and mean attack there man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by destro View Post
    Can't you just say you don't care for it and why? Seems like a very personal and mean attack there man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Nichols View Post
    Those who cannot do, talk $#!+.
    My eyes tell me his stuff is ugliness personfied. My hands tell me they could better even with broken fingers. No one can tell me to appreciate his stuff (I can't say artwork)
    Seriously why Marvel allows a stuff-maker (can't say artist) to work on a high profile book whose stuff repels many people is so wrong. If they replace him, more people would buy the book. They certainly wouldn't lose any readers

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    The team of artists they have on ASM now and SSM Ramos included are the best I have seen in a long while. Before slott took things over the art was so dark and just didn't look how I imagine a Spidey book to look like. They looked almost more like a batman title. Not saying they were bad just not what a Spidey book should look like. I would say that next to JRJR the Ramos, Stegman, and Caselli are my favorite Spidey artists.
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    Ramos is admittedly an acquired taste. I never liked his art originally, but ever since he started doing the Big Time era, I feel he's really stepped up and its grown on me. His work is ALOT better than it used to be (Where everyone had buttons for eyes). He's grown into quite the artist and, while I don't think he's the very best, he's become one of my favorite Spider-Man artists over the last few years.

    In my opinion, the best Spider-Man artist of the past few years has been Stefano Casseli. It's too bad he's stuck doing Avengers Assemble instead of more awesome Spider-Man work. Ramos is probably my 2nd favorite.
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    Ramos is a bit of a schizo artist. When he's on, he can create some decent-looking stuff. But when he's off, he's WAY off. You can see examples of both scenarios in this very thread.

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    I love Ramos. I really do. But then again, I have an open mind about many artists. Maybe it's because I myself, love to draw and I realize how hard it is. I can say that I like his work now way more than in the past.

    I get people not liking his style, but you really can't say he's not talented. It's just not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish Kabbible View Post
    My eyes tell me his stuff is ugliness personfied. My hands tell me they could better even with broken fingers. No one can tell me to appreciate his stuff (I can't say artwork)
    Seriously why Marvel allows a stuff-maker (can't say artist) to work on a high profile book whose stuff repels many people is so wrong. If they replace him, more people would buy the book. They certainly wouldn't lose any readers
    Nobody is trying to tell you that you have to like it or appreciate it, I guess I just wonder why you couldn't be a little more respectful in your criticisms..

    Anyway that's just my opinion. I'm not the biggest Ramos fan either, but I still appreciate that he is talented. I just don't personally care for the style so much. He isn't a bad artist at all, I think he has one of those love it or hate it styles.
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    I used to really hate Ramos. But I've come to enjoy it. For me, it depends on the title. I think he fits well with books like Spider-Man or Deadpool.

    Like with most artists, it depends on the book.
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    I'm not Ramos' biggest fan, but he's definitely a talented artist and his stylisation works well on a book like Spider-Man, where the character is an animated, hyper-kinetic hero.




    Quote Originally Posted by coconutphone View Post
    Ummm.. harldy. Scott Pilgrim is its own world. It's not Ramos' Spider-Man vs John Romita's Spider-Man vs anyone else's.
    The point was that you can't get more manga-inspired artwise than Scott Pilgrim and Bryan Lee O'Malley's work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    I Cant even Describe How freaking Pissed and Disapointed i was that ramos Drew Spider-Island instead of say Marco Checchetto, someone who really could have made the Man Spiders look Horrifing as they should be.
    I'm going to make this very simple.
    This is from someone who's worked over 20 years in this industry and written over 1 out of every 10 issues of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN.

    No man on Earth could have drawn SPIDER-ISLAND other than Humberto Ramos.

    No one could have stuck to or maintained that grueling schedule and have that book-- with most issues going over the regular page count-- with IMMENSE crowd shots on every other page-- and HIT those deadlines without dropping a stitch-- in a book where EVERY issue had crossovers and tie-in issues playing into it.

    He did it with style.
    He did it with intensity.
    He did it with artistry.
    And he did it with a work ethic to which I have NEVER seen equaled.

    Every single artist who has ever drawn a page of a comic will have their fans AND detractors.

    I'm not saying this as a fan.
    I'm saying this as a pro.
    Humberto Ramos is one of the finest Spider-Man artists to grace a Marvel Comic.

    'Nuff Said.

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    You think this criticism is bad.... if people dont like what happens in 700.....then yeesh.

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    I have to agree with Dan Slott! As I said earlier in my post, Ramos fits in nicely with books such as Spider-Man!
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    I used to hate Ramos cartoony look, but it really does fit with spiderman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish Kabbible View Post
    Terrible artist,worst employed by Marvel in many many years. I could vomit on a canvas and it would look better. I paper trained my dog with this guy's "artwork". Who is punishing us that he continues to get work? In a steel cage death match between Ramos and liefeld, god help me I would have to root for Rob.
    Whoa, that just ain't right. I think Rob Liefeld is probably one of the very worst artists still getting work today. Humberto Ramos could outdraw him with an etch e sketch and it would be raw brilliance compared to anything Rob could bring to the table. I'm not the biggest fan of Ramos but he gets the job done and he doesn't hurt the book. There's alot of bad employed artists out there but Ramos isn't one of them.

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