Civil War Thoughts

[mikekerrIII]

I thought a lot of the writers let their political ideology get in the way of telling the story properly. They seemed more interested in making it a political statement than approaching the story the logical way. Iron Man was right, he was always right. But other than a single one shot, no one ever stopped to really have Iron Man lay out his case and why he thought superhuman registration was right. And to make sure the readers didn't realize that they start having the Pro side kill Goliath with a Thor clone and start locking people up in a prison in another dimension. I thought the crossover had endless potential and I liked a lot of the fallout but I think they botched the main story.

I think you are letting your political ideology get in the way here. Complaining that the writers believe in things like human rights and due process seems a bit strange. Writer like everyone else write from their values and thankfully it seams that marvel writers are for the most part decent human beings, even if that disappoint,

[B. Kuwanger]

How's that, now?

Because it was big, loud, and fun. it had intense moments of action, an interesting (as far as superhero crossovers go) plot, and a genuinely good ending. But the characters had a poor grasp on before, and were too influential in the after for many tastes.

Every event after failed to hit the same "widescreen" feel.

[E. Wilson]

Complaining that the writers believe in things like human rights and due process seems a bit strange.

Oh, now that's not fair at all, particularly when mixed with the fantasy elements of the comic book genre. Does taking the Venom symbiote away from Eddie Brock violate his human rights? What due process does the Red Skull deserve? No one is arguing against human rights and due process; the argument is that either the writers have a poor understanding of how such concepts would translate into this fantasy scenario, or that the concepts simply can't be approximated in the way the writers were trying to make happen.

[AntiPatriot]

What?
The Atlantian sleeper cells were being activated by Atlantis themselves. Tony found out and decided to use this to push this SHRA stuff forward so he setup the mission with Wonder Man found their secret base and the attack by the Green Goblin.

I'm talking about the Frontline-Thing.
It was nothing but an idea ad it was never used, but still.

Tony's character has been pretty much destroyed in Civil War.

[E. Wilson]

Tony's character has been pretty much destroyed in Civil War.

Said the poster with a "Cyclops was right" avatar.

EDIT: Actually, that came out harsher than I intended. My point is, if you say that a character's been "destroyed" after every flash-in-the-pan event writes him/her out of character, you're not going to have a lot of characters left to enjoy.

[Sighphi]

Of course. The readers were told how to react but when they were reading they wanted to make their own judgements instead of going along with the judgements of the writers.

You misunderstand, the writers just setup a scenario and people put in their own thoughts based on something outside of the comic, something not seen in the comics.

I'm talking about the Frontline-Thing.
It was nothing but an idea ad it was never used, but still.

What? He mentioned about setting up a terrorist attack? What issue did this happen?

Tony's character has been pretty much destroyed in Civil War.

No it wasnt, this is the same way Stark has been acting since day one.