I plead ignorance on this as I left D.C. when they solicited that Bruce Wayne, the guy who was, is and always will be Batman, was leaving. I came back with the first issue of Detective.
Which is a whole different thing for me. As my sig can attest.
Last edited by The Duke; 11-30-2012 at 06:51 AM.
"Mistah Joker, he dead."
The question for me is--who exactly is Bruce Wayne, really? He is nothing but his obsession. He's one-note. Other than name recognition I see no good reason why this incarnation of Bruce Wayne should be Batman. At some point some writer's going to have to do a rebuilding job on Wayne.
I mean whose interested in Bruce Wayne? Bruce isn't Peter Parker he's not an everyman who has problems that everybody can relate to. He's rich and very charismatic. If you saw him as much as possible without the dose of cynicism from Batman you'd definitely end up hating him.
Batman can't be Batman all the time so whenever he sleeps or needs to take a break he's back to being Bruce Wayne. Bruce is of course shaped by the tragedy in his youth but he's more or less over that now.
Its interesting I believe there are several stories where whenever Batman is given any sort of power he just uses it to continue being Batman all the time instead of half the time. On some level you'd reach the conclusion that being Batman is all he really wants out of life since he has everything else.
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100% with you on BFTC and War Games though. I'd share the consensus on just pre-Morrison and Dini Batman as basically the nadir of the character's history.
Also, on Killing Joke, while Barbara was fridged rather horrifically and Batman shown to be pretty much insane, as an out of continuity story those aren't necessarily bad things. But there was really nothing Batman could do for Barbara that doesn't involve all of the story breakers batgrrrrrrrrl mentioned. I've never read that laugh as Batman going, "Hey, nice work back there." but as Batman completely broken and left as a giggling husk by the trauma of the Joker's actions.
On the above, I think Morrison's reinvention of Bruce as more of the 'perfect man' and not as a one note facade is one of his biggest contributions to the character. Unfortunately few are following his example anymore.
Call me A.J.
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I just bought the whole Morrison run on ebay (despite the fact that I'm not sold on Damian or Batman Inc.); if his Bruce is really the reinvigorated character you suggest, I'll be pretty happy.On the above, I think Morrison's reinvention of Bruce as more of the 'perfect man' and not as a one note facade is one of his biggest contributions to the character.
Now if only Wayne could have a girlfriend who lasts more than a few months. He needs a few supporting cast members that aren't Batman-related.
I would have to go with War Games. The ultimate Batdick.
Last edited by Nate Hoover; 12-01-2012 at 06:47 AM.
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The only two times I've left Batman before leaving for good were in 1986 when I thought comics were beyond a teenaged boy who'd found women (I came back when I heard Batdance for the first time) and Brian K. Vaughan's Close Before Striking story in Batman, which is my own choice for the worst Batman story I've ever read, and I came back when Hush started then left after D.C.'s Countdown deliberately hurt me.
It was actually Batman's demise in writing quality in the mid-2000's that got me reading Ed Brubaker's Captain America so it was a welcome disconnect.
"Mistah Joker, he dead."
Thankfully, he was taken off real quick and replaced by Brubaker.