State of Wakanda: The Black Panther Discussion

[Froggy]

Yes...............but it's not as good as Rob Liefeld................?

now I want to see Liefeld in some aviators and a pink jacket

[JaggedFel]

Lol the shoulder pads would be 10 times to large

[Genki Sudo]

Also Genki interesting avatar are u a girl?

No I'm just a fan of the girl in my av

now I want to see Liefeld in some aviators and a pink jacket

And Rob has almost said he's a comic genius or did he actually say it, I think it was in his rant or whatever with Snyder on twitter

['Flo]

In other (and rather tangential) news,

I think I’ve finally reconciled (in my mind, at least) that I am glad that Storm is back where she has always belonged -- with the X-Men. I’m done with the “If only’s” and the “could have been’s” when it comes to her and the BP mythos. She didn’t belong there. Seriously… I mean if Marvel wanted to make it work, they would have, but like most things that involve more than 1 minority, despite the uniqueness of it all, there “wasn’t a market for it” (or one they wanted to write for anyways). I’m excited that T’Challa’s doing his own thing now in NA, and hopefully beyond (I heard mention of him getting his own series spinning out of this). I really don’t care to see her mentioned at all in his upcoming books. IMO, it’s dead and done… I’ll be following her in Uncanny X-Force next year, but that’s about it… and that’s only if the book turns out to be halfway decent.

That is my swan song on the subject.

[Onyenkwere]

Yes. I agree.

I watch the film Serenity last night and I was impressed with Chiwetel Ejiofor role as The Operative.
Something in line with this would work imho.

MajestiK's been singing Chiwetel Ejiofor's praises for ages.

[Onyenkwere]

Boy this Reginald Hudlin BP is uh....

...not good

Do you have anything constructive to say?

Probably not.

Reginald Hudlin hasn't written a Black panther story in just over 5 years and when he did, he actually outsold everyone else that's penned a BP story.

[marvell2100]

Boy this Reginald Hudlin BP is uh....

...not good

So what was it that you didn't like? Curious to know what you found lacking.

[rsreed13]

Some tidbits from the Hickman Q & A Thread (I've bolded Hickman's answers):

Originally Posted by nj06
I absolutely love the attention that you are giving T'Challa right now and I like the way your have portrayed him so far. He is the main reason I am going to read this series as he is my favorite character. With that in mind, these questions are BP focused:

1) How do you channel T'Challa; in regards to his defining qualities and morals?

2) While I'm sure he is focused on dealing with whatever threat he and his teammates may face, where is T'Challa at emotionally after separating from Storm? Is he vulnerable? Will their relationship/break up be referenced in any way?

3) Black Panther vs. Batman, who would win in a fight?

I've answered this in several other places, Panther is a super-smart, king of a secret science society. It's kind of my wheelhouse.

At first I was planning on him an Storm still seeing each other privately (while politically in public was impossible), but when I heard what the x-guys were going to do I didn't even bring it up because what they have is pretty cool (and after a certain point, people have said yes to some many things you want you're just an dick if you keep asking).

Panther, but no one would be surprised if Batman won. He's Batman.

Originally Posted by Global Honored
Thanks for your previous responses JH. And of course Morrison is the right answer, and way less crabby.
I'll throw you another softball before going with the slider.

1) Bama plus 7: Over or Under?

2) You probably are familiar with the strong, loyal and very vocal fanbase that T'Challa has on the Internet, including right here on CBR. We have a lot of proud BP fans, myself included. These fans have voiced much frustration about T'Challa and Wakanda's standing within the Marvel U in recent years. Some cool stuff has happened (taking on Kingpin for instance, the recent FF issues) for sure, but overall it has been a difficult time for the guy and the country. Is there any way you could address the Panther fans and give them something to lean on as we move into New Avengers? Of course fans will have to wait and see and have it proven to them, but if there is anything you can give us to say "this dude will do it well, or go down trying" well I think that would be some sweet relief to many.

Thanks again for engaging with us so frankly.

1. OVER.
2. I don't think so. From what I've gathered from talking to various BP fans, my formspring, and my couple of ventures over to that forum/thread/whatever, my take is everyone feels pretty burned. Now, is that valid or not, I don't really care to get into -- but can it be fixed by me saying I'm going to do something? Again, I don't think so.

So all I can really offer is try the book out. If you like it, maybe stick around for another one. If you don't, you have my apologies and certainly walk away.

I will offer this: The most 'important' book in the most successful corner of the Marvel Universe will be New Avengers, people just don't know that yet. It may not sell quite as high as Avengers, but the things going on in that book will affect the broader MU, and it's a good thing for the character that BP is in there.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Also Genki interesting avatar are u a girl?

If Genki was Mia Yim, I'd be asking for an autograph (somehow) like ASAP.

[Etoma]

Hearing him say New Avengers will be the most important book in the Marvel Universe filled me with joy. He seems very excited about the book and cast, and I'm sure he's taking them to awesome heights. Can't wait... but sadly, I have to.

[Global Honored]

I'm satisfied. That was a solid answer to a tough but fair question I thought.
A lot of us are coming at this thing from different angles and points of view, but we seem to meet at "we will need to see it in the book to be convinced" and Hickman seems to realize that too and be aware of the BP fans. I'm not sure that one could be answered definitively but props for JH taking a swing at it anyway.

And since he also chosen Morrison over Moore ( that's the correct answer btw ) then I am gonna stick with his keen insight and take Alabama and give the points. Sorry Irish.

Interesting revelation about his initial plans to have BP & Storm pursue their relationship behind closed doors which probably explains some of those "maybe it isn't over yet" remarks a few months back. At this point though, I am just ready for TChalla to move on and past all that soap opera drama.

[Vic Vega]

I'm satisfied. That was a solid answer to a tough but fair question I thought.
A lot of us are coming at this thing from different angles and points of view, but we seem to meet at "we will need to see it in the book to be convinced" and Hickman seems to realize that too and be aware of the BP fans. I'm not sure that one could be answered definitively but props for JH taking a swing at it anyway.

And since he also chosen Morrison over Moore ( that's the correct answer btw ) then I am gonna stick with his keen insight and take Alabama and give the points. Sorry Irish.

Interesting revelation about his initial plans to have BP & Storm pursue their relationship behind closed doors which probably explains some of those "maybe it isn't over yet" remarks a few months back. At this point though, I am just ready for TChalla to move on and past all that soap opera drama.

As a writer of a popular character, no matter what you do you are probably gonna piss somebody off, .

I remember when John Ney Riber was writing Captain America for the Marvel Knights imprint and he had various groups of folks thinking he was soft on terrorisism and muslim bashing in the same comic. I tend to think of that as a real accomplishment.

[Global Honored]

As a writer of a popular character, no matter what you do you are probably gonna piss somebody off, .

I remember when John Ney Riber was writing Captain America for the Marvel Knights imprint and he had various groups of folks thinking he was soft on terrorisism and muslim bashing in the same comic. I tend to think of that as a real accomplishment.

Lol, that is impressive.

[FriendRoss]

some other snipits i found thrilling

Originally Posted by SilverZeal
Hi der again,

Uhm...will we get 2 c Wakandan Vibranium again?

We/SZ ask dis bcuz if all processed vibranium bcam inert in DW wudnt Wakanda's untapped, raw & unprocessed vibranium still remain active ala d sacred mound?

Oh...and uh....will any of d following b part of BP/Tchalla's arsenal &/or will dey sho-up in NA?

Frm DW/Doom War:
Shadow fyzix
Nowhere Rm

Frm Priest's BP run:
Anti-metal claws
Energy daggers
Kimiyo Card
Nyami Battle cruisers
Vibranium soled boots

Or will it all b entirely nu 'gear'?
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We'll see about the Vibranium.

He'll have cool stuff, just like the other 'builders' on the team. I won't be doing any, "My only hope now is my vibranium-tipped blah blah," because I just don't like doing that.

Besides they'll have other 'tools' they're worried about.

Originally Posted by Hariel0079
Wakanda and Atlantis are at war because of the events of AvX.... I'm more than sure you'll address it but how much will be addressed? will it be a small story arc?

Storm and T'challa? will we see them interact in your run?

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There really are no small story arcs in NA.

Originally Posted by FriendRoss
Mr Hickman


will the first arc of new avengers be more about looking forward to the new threat, next adventure? or will it more address how these power brokers look back at what has happened and sort things out establishing the new status quo in the NOW!


also.. how closely have you had to coordinate with fraction on richards and bendis on beast?


thank you... cant wait

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Everything with Avengers is about looking forward. New Avengers is a book that carries the past like a weight around it's neck.

I know what they're doing and they know what I'm doing.

by march... the comics world will be a blaze over this book!

[T'Kyl]

Any of you read the What The?! The book Marvel put out in the late 80s early 90s that was a parody of the Marvel U? The issue of T'Challa getting jobbed is not new. Either is the issue on how to market him. Specifically issue number 9. I don't own a scanner so I can't show the images. They called T'Challa the Black and Blue panther and "The mighty marh-voul-ous hypters wondered why he couldn't give us more "Black talk". They wondered why "he always be talkin so straight." Wondered why he couldn't talk "black-er."

My point is that Marvel knew the problems with T'Challa over twenty years ago and even made fun of them, among other things in the Marvel universe. But if I decided in 1990 that I was no longer going to read about him I would have missed Priest and Hudlin. Just sayin....