Anymore Villains you'd like to see 'kiddiefied'?

**AntiPatriot** · 11-24-2012, 01:39 PM

After Loki and Apocalypse, is there anybody else you'd like to see killed and re-born afterwards with no memories, possibly starting again as good guys?

I think, now that he has been killed, it would be interesting to do this with Sinister (because we all know that this bastard will never really die).

**NexusTenebrare** · 11-24-2012, 02:07 PM

Maybe they could do Selene and make it a straight up pastiche of the creepy girl from so many asian horrors movies and FEAR-type games.

I'm not seriously suggesting that BTW.
I don't think that would really be a good idea.

**E. Wilson** · 11-24-2012, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare

Maybe they could do Selene and make it a straight up pastiche of the creepy girl from so many asian horrors movies and FEAR-type games.

I'm not seriously suggesting that BTW.
I don't think that would really be a good idea.

Don't know why you're backtracking, dude; I think that would be awesome.

I also don't know if there are any other villains who would benefit dramatically from such a reincarnation. Loki and Apocalypse worked for two reasons: their new character was interesting, and the effect they had on those around them was interesting. They provided some serious emotional moments and ethical dilemmas for their series' protagonists. (As opposed to, say, the new Hellfire Club, who are fun to watch, but shallow as a puddle.)

...does this discussion suddenly remind anyone else of that weird time a couple years ago when we got Lady Loki, Ms. Sinister, and Lady Bullseye in quick succession?

**Juggernaut Punch** · 11-24-2012, 03:12 PM

Its gone to hell in my opinion with the Hellfire Brats and Kid Apocalypse. Kid Loki was the only good one and only worked because it made sense for Loki's character and because Gillen did such a great job with it. I'd say leave it at him.

**KurtW95** · 11-24-2012, 03:17 PM

No. Loki was the only one that worked. I don't want to imagine a Kid Doom, Leader, or Doc Ock.

**MichaelChen** · 11-24-2012, 06:18 PM

Kid Mandarin would be funny. Think of that kung fu baby in "Kung Pow: Enter the Fist"

**B. Kuwanger** · 11-24-2012, 07:12 PM

No joke, I think Kid Carnage would be neat.

**KurtW95** · 11-24-2012, 07:27 PM

Gillen pretty much proved that a young Sabretooth could still be pretty damn scary.

**Starfish** · 11-25-2012, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare

Maybe they could do Selene and make it a straight up pastiche of the creepy girl from so many asian horrors movies and FEAR-type games.

I'm not seriously suggesting that BTW.
I don't think that would really be a good idea.

No, that's excellent idea, in fact. Now I'll probably be disappointed if she comes back in any other way.

**Harbinger of Apocalypse** · 11-25-2012, 08:04 AM

Selene being reborn as a young girl would be interesting and a way of bringing her back into the setting so long as she returns to adulthood. She was, after all, a sorceress and had an afinity for magic so a reincarnation approach is possible. Having said that, I personally just don't like using such an approach excessively. Of the current lot, Kid Loki is the most interesting and Kidpocalypse (Evan) serves as a storytelling point on whether nuture or nature wins at the end of the day. We do have a Kid Kang I suppose in the form of Iron Lad but he kind of disappeared recently. But don't like the idea of seeing Kid Doom, Kid Magneto, Kid Mandarin etc etc. Same way I don't like changing genders of villains... I didn't like Fem Ultron, Fem Loki etc. Its not because of them being women, its because its better to have a strong original character then say 'Oh look, we changed their age/gender!" Having said that, I didn't mind Miss Sinister though its mostly she was not actually Sinister but had his powers.

But, in the interest of the OP, maybe a Kid Ultron though we have Victor Mancha there as a possible stand-in.

**Charlie_1981** · 11-25-2012, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Harbinger of Apocalypse

Selene being reborn as a young girl would be interesting and a way of bringing her back into the setting so long as she returns to adulthood. She was, after all, a sorceress and had an afinity for magic so a reincarnation approach is possible. Having said that, I personally just don't like using such an approach excessively. Of the current lot, Kid Loki is the most interesting and Kidpocalypse (Evan) serves as a storytelling point on whether nuture or nature wins at the end of the day. We do have a Kid Kang I suppose in the form of Iron Lad but he kind of disappeared recently. But don't like the idea of seeing Kid Doom, Kid Magneto, Kid Mandarin etc etc. Same way I don't like changing genders of villains... I didn't like Fem Ultron, Fem Loki etc. Its not because of them being women, its because its better to have a strong original character then say 'Oh look, we changed their age/gender!" Having said that, I didn't mind Miss Sinister though its mostly she was not actually Sinister but had his powers.

But, in the interest of the OP, maybe a Kid Ultron though we have Victor Mancha there as a possible stand-in.

Kid Doom already exists and it was Kristoff Vernard.

**Harbinger of Apocalypse** · 11-25-2012, 08:53 AM

True and same could be said with Kid Ultron. Though, my understanding from the OP, is that it isn't so much about being children who look like a set character. Rather, its the actual character somehow being reverted to the age of a child. Kristoff is an adopted son, Mancha is an artificially created son... but Iron Lad, Genesis, Kid Loki; these are all the actual character but reverted to a younger age. So, if we go down that train of thought, Kristoff and Victor would not qualify... though strangely Joseph who is a clone of a younger Magneto would but I don't think one could count him as a 'kid'. Considerably younger then Magneto himself but not on the same level as Iron Lad or Kid Loki.