See I always tell people Bendis really did help the avengers out in the long run
Granted, that Luke Cage and later Iron Fist and some of the other characters like Dr Strange were/ are getting face time in a major book wasn't a bad thing, it was the lack of mainstays, the cavalier attitudes of editorial, (which granted was paying off in terms of sales,) Spiderman and Wolverine in multiple titles, (when the fuck they slept I couldn't tell ya,) was offputting to longtime fans like myself. I didn't hang around past New Avengers #1. With the shift of Marvel Now, I feel like I can go home again, having enjoyed Hickmann's Fantastic Four work, after 8, almost 9 years, I'm readily looking forward to what lies ahead for my favorite franchise.
Remember, now that Wolverine is the Monty Burns of the MU, due to his lousy 'Origin' story that has become canon, that's the only reason that there's any kind of backstory with Logan and Steve Rogers, which I'm not a fan of either. But there's no going back there either. This whole mutant and hero thing drama that is a byproduct of fandom is pretty stupid, I'm not reading Uncanny Avengers mainly because I cynically don't believe that Cassady can put the book to press with anything resembling regularity, moreso than the concept or characters behind it. If the stories are fun then the fans win. Simple as that.
Last edited by vh4ever; 11-26-2012 at 08:34 AM.
Tired of tolerating.
Tired of tolerating.
I for one, always liked the Avengers before Bendis. I liked the status of the golden boys of the MU superhero set. Let the X-Men be the underdog. Let the FF be the celebrities. THe Avengers were the pros. Each team and book had their own identity and I was fine with that. Granted, Bendis did try to give us something different that what we had (though in no way original), but I didn't like that it was at the cost of something that IMHO, worked and I liked. Had he maybe ressurected the Defenders with his "all-star" team, and left the Avengers for someone who wanted to continue working with the team as it was (and Bendis lovers always seem to forget that Avengers was at the top 10 during all of Busiek and Perez's run, selling much more than Bendis ever dreamed of selling, so it was doable), I might have been okay with it (though I doubt it, since I don't think I ever liked Bendis handling of the team, with the cute jokey talk and the endless decompression) at the very least, I'd still have someone dealing with big villains and high fantasy concepts, instead of ninjas and the Hood's gang. So far, Hickman's line-up really hasn't blown me away, but, at the very least, I'm excited for getting back the type of stories I used to like to read with the Avengers. Can't wait to be able to read Avengers again.
I like the Avengers and the characters, but the stories, for me have always been lacking. Its this really powerful group of super heroes, but they fight villains they can easily beat. Sure Loki's powerful, but Thor is just as powerful if not more powerful. Hydra aka foot soldiers getting beatdowns. Red Skull... I mean, Cap can beat him pretty much on his own. They need bigger villains.
It's more a matter of writers who don't explore well the great Avengers foes of the past.
And there are many not mentioned in there, just waiting for that great break out story.
The Avengers are not boring. Kree-Skrull War, Under Siege, Avengers Forever, Dynasty Kang and other large arches prove it. Everything depends on the reader sympathize with the group.
that it tended to neglect the Avengers rogues.
Sure, we got Ultron, Kang and Morgan La Fey but for the most part his run was about repurposing characters like Hood and Norman Osborne into Avengers foes as opposed to emphasizing characters like the Squadron Sinister, Lethal Legion, Graviton, Count Nafaria and Bres.
Last edited by Vic Vega; 11-26-2012 at 11:39 AM.
Bres? From the Formor? Wow, sure not a fan of Bendis run, but even I don't fault him for missing that gem from the past. The rest, I agree, and can even think of more neglected foes.