Should Emma and Peter Parker get together now that they are both available?

[L-Dizzy]

I voted no.

Although to be honest, I liked Emma with Scott though I have just started to read X-Men this year so you know I haven't caught up with their history since about 2004-2005

You know after reading most of this thread, I would like to see 616 Spidey hook up with Kitty though I would still want him & MJ to get back together one day.

[Perfection/Emma 2]

Can we just say that they're both messed-up psychological wrecks, albeit in different flavors of messed-up, and admit that the train wreck that would result from them trying any kind of relationship with each other would be fun to watch?

I mean, for everyone saying Peter's an overgrown man-child, over at DC, there's been this ongoing theory that Batman is mentally stuck at the same age he saw his parents shot dead in front of him and he was just a helpless little kid at the time. I could just as easily apply that theory to Peter concerning his beloved uncle dying because of his actions --- in his mind, anyway; for all we know, the burglar could have just as well tried robbing someone else's house --- and ever since he's been, to paraphrase the Joker in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, "a loser nerd in a playsuit crying for daddy to come home." However, that isn't necessarily unique to Peter, since nearly everybody in the MU is a traumatized wreck of a person barely holding their self-destructive impulses in check, heroes and villains alike; we just see it more on display in Spider-Man since his big thing is teenage (and later young adult) angst on top of being a superhero in a universe full of ingrates that'll just as quickly turn on him as soon as he slips even a little bit or looks like he is.

Also, it should be mentioned that Emma is in her own way just as torn up by guilt for her past mistakes and misdeeds as Peter is; she just defaults to her alpha female personality to keep most other people from seeing that, which makes her look aloof and regal (and therefore cool, sexy, and badass, all of which she is when at the top of her game). Peter, on the other hand, talks up a storm to keep other people from seeing how messed-up he really is, which makes him look like the annoying class clown of the hero set (even if the annoying class clown tends to be doing it to cover up his issues in the first place and is surprisingly intelligent and badass for such a facade). Plus, with Emma, there would be no failure from Peter to perform to his highest possible potential since the White Queen --- emphasis on "Queen" --- would not allow any lover of hers to stagnate, much like she refused to let Cyclops do when they were together. Or to put it more simply, Emma built up Scott into someone who could stand on his own two feet without requiring emotional validation from a father figure or an idealized Madonna figure, and she could damn well do the same for Peter.

Finally, the snarky banter between Emma and Peter would be worth it, and he can always whip out the Future Foundation costume if he wants to try to match her colors.

I truly enjoyed this post Assassin Spider. Makes me regret for voiting "No".

[sweetbrownisonfiyah]

Chile, seeing as how Peter Parker is not a mutant, and thus not immune to stds, I would advise him to stay far away from Emma's rot crotch.

Namor is used to fishy smells, so they are a match made in heaven, girl.

[Froggy]

I used to really think Peter was great, but Civil war showed he was all talk and didn't even get his own catch phrase.

While I kinda agree, I did sort of enjoy the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man era with Peter parker as a teacher

I think him and Emma could relate on that level?

inb4peoplearelikeLOLZCEPTHERSTUDENTSDIEALLTHETIME

Chile, seeing as how Peter Parker is not a mutant, and thus not immune to stds, I would advise him to stay far away from Emma's rot crotch.

Namor is used to fishy smells, so they are a match made in heaven, girl.

You know he could just have someone at Horizon Labs whip up something no questions asked

[airdreams]

Can we just say that they're both messed-up psychological wrecks, albeit in different flavors of messed-up, and admit that the train wreck that would result from them trying any kind of relationship with each other would be fun to watch?

I mean, for everyone saying Peter's an overgrown man-child, over at DC, there's been this ongoing theory that Batman is mentally stuck at the same age he saw his parents shot dead in front of him and he was just a helpless little kid at the time. I could just as easily apply that theory to Peter concerning his beloved uncle dying because of his actions --- in his mind, anyway; for all we know, the burglar could have just as well tried robbing someone else's house --- and ever since he's been, to paraphrase the Joker in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, "a loser nerd in a playsuit crying for daddy to come home." However, that isn't necessarily unique to Peter, since nearly everybody in the MU is a traumatized wreck of a person barely holding their self-destructive impulses in check, heroes and villains alike; we just see it more on display in Spider-Man since his big thing is teenage (and later young adult) angst on top of being a superhero in a universe full of ingrates that'll just as quickly turn on him as soon as he slips even a little bit or looks like he is.

Also, it should be mentioned that Emma is in her own way just as torn up by guilt for her past mistakes and misdeeds as Peter is; she just defaults to her alpha female personality to keep most other people from seeing that, which makes her look aloof and regal (and therefore cool, sexy, and badass, all of which she is when at the top of her game). Peter, on the other hand, talks up a storm to keep other people from seeing how messed-up he really is, which makes him look like the annoying class clown of the hero set (even if the annoying class clown tends to be doing it to cover up his issues in the first place and is surprisingly intelligent and badass for such a facade). Plus, with Emma, there would be no failure from Peter to perform to his highest possible potential since the White Queen --- emphasis on "Queen" --- would not allow any lover of hers to stagnate, much like she refused to let Cyclops do when they were together. Or to put it more simply, Emma built up Scott into someone who could stand on his own two feet without requiring emotional validation from a father figure or an idealized Madonna figure, and she could damn well do the same for Peter.

Finally, the snarky banter between Emma and Peter would be worth it, and he can always whip out the Future Foundation costume if he wants to try to match her colors.

Now you kinda convince me that Emma/Peter pairing could work well...

[mr_hyde2120]

That would be dumb. And anyways when women get out of a relationship that they've been In for a long time. They usually turn into a slut and just start banging all kinds of dudes. She was always on the ho side. Now she's just gonna turn into a super ho.

[Assassin Spider]

I truly enjoyed this post Assassin Spider. Makes me regret for voiting "No".

Thanks for the praise, Perfection/Emma 2. And yes, Psylocke/Cyclops would be an interesting new couple to explore, partly because Psylocke's a telepath/telekinetic who can also straight-up kick Cyclops's ass if he gets too out of line. Real woman of action, that Betsy Braddock --- with nothing in terms of offense meant to Jean Grey or Emma Frost, since they're pretty awesome, too.

Also, while I think Emma/Peter would be an interesting couple to explore, they would likely not work out that well and my post was mostly for fun while ironically thinking seriously about it. Besides, if those two had a kid, I'd be looking forward to that kid having a diamond spider-armor and for her spider-sense to manifest by literal flashes of future dangers and instantly reading the thoughts of people immediately intending to do her harm. (Why, yes, I'm sure their child would be a girl. The X-Ladies have most of the badass genes, anyway. )

inb4peoplearelikeLOLZCEPTHERSTUDENTSDIEALLTHETIME

That was only the Hellions, Froggy. The students that she took on during her affiliation with the X-Men (Generation X and when she joined the X-Men proper) didn't die that much, for the most part, and if somebody wants to count Decimation --- a lot of depowered mutants died because the Purifiers were a bunch of fanatically murderous bigots, nothing to do with Emma. Otherwise, it's as much on Cyclops's head that they died, if anyone feels like slinging blame at somebody on the X-Men for that.

Now you kinda convince me that Emma/Peter pairing could work well...

Wow, I guess I did. Thanks, airdreams, although it would take a near-literal hell of a lot to make it work, given how different their temperaments and social backgrounds are.

I used to really think Peter was great, but Civil war showed he was all talk and didn't even get his own catch phrase.

As for that argument, the responsible thing would have been to not side with Iron Man in the first place, but once Peter discovered what Tony was doing to the anti-reg fighters they caught (believe it or not, it's pretty heinous to lock people up in another dimension forever without even a sham of a trial for breaking a law barely on the books), the moral thing to do was to get his (Peter's) family the hell away from him (Tony) and fight back against that kind of violation of civil and human rights. After that, I blame Joe Quesada and his Oedipal obsession with his mother and his resentment of the concept of marriage. On a tangent, there are perfectly legitimate reasons to take issue with the institution of marriage from a feminist, anti-patriarchal, and/or anti-heterosexist stance, but Quesada was just whining about how boring and stale and uninteresting his life was once he got married (and what was it like for his wife, I wonder?), so I have little if any sympathy for him.

[Shadow Skill]

I don't see what kind of appeal Peter Parker would have to Emma. She goes for Alpha males.

Yet parker is more famous and braver than than any of the alpha males heroes in the x men community or the avengers, Heart of New York anyone?

[Harbinger of Apocalypse]

Maybe see it in an alternate universe. But in 616? Don't think so. Having said that, wouldn't mind seeing them banter and have more interactions since they are just sooo different from one another.

[Khajit]

And, second Emma is old enough to be Peter's Aunt.

Fixed for you.

I cant fathom why anyone would wish Emma Frost on Spider-man unless they hated the guy.

I'd also like to correct the assumption people are having that Black Cat's character stayed the same for several decades. She had alot of character growth and grew as a person after that time she freaked out about seeing spidey without his mask. Then OMD happened and she now acts like she had a lobotomy. 20~30 years of growth as a person is all gone now.

[The Black Guardian]

Peter is too young for her.

And yes, I mean Peter in Doc Ock's body.

[kakitamike]

All these people sleeping together makes me wonder why there's aren't more pregnant women in the comics. I don't think i've ever heard safe and sex in the same sentence in any comic book pairing.

[Froggy]

Thanks for the praise, Perfection/Emma 2. And yes, Psylocke/Cyclops would be an interesting new couple to explore, partly because Psylocke's a telepath/telekinetic who can also straight-up kick Cyclops's ass if he gets too out of line. Real woman of action, that Betsy Braddock --- with nothing in terms of offense meant to Jean Grey or Emma Frost, since they're pretty awesome, too.

Also, while I think Emma/Peter would be an interesting couple to explore, they would likely not work out that well and my post was mostly for fun while ironically thinking seriously about it. Besides, if those two had a kid, I'd be looking forward to that kid having a diamond spider-armor and for her spider-sense to manifest by literal flashes of future dangers and instantly reading the thoughts of people immediately intending to do her harm. (Why, yes, I'm sure their child would be a girl. The X-Ladies have most of the badass genes, anyway. )



That was only the Hellions, Froggy. The students that she took on during her affiliation with the X-Men (Generation X and when she joined the X-Men proper) didn't die that much, for the most part, and if somebody wants to count Decimation --- a lot of depowered mutants died because the Purifiers were a bunch of fanatically murderous bigots, nothing to do with Emma. Otherwise, it's as much on Cyclops's head that they died, if anyone feels like slinging blame at somebody on the X-Men for that.



Wow, I guess I did. Thanks, airdreams, although it would take a near-literal hell of a lot to make it work, given how different their temperaments and social backgrounds are.



As for that argument, the responsible thing would have been to not side with Iron Man in the first place, but once Peter discovered what Tony was doing to the anti-reg fighters they caught (believe it or not, it's pretty heinous to lock people up in another dimension forever without even a sham of a trial for breaking a law barely on the books), the moral thing to do was to get his (Peter's) family the hell away from him (Tony) and fight back against that kind of violation of civil and human rights. After that, I blame Joe Quesada and his Oedipal obsession with his mother and his resentment of the concept of marriage. On a tangent, there are perfectly legitimate reasons to take issue with the institution of marriage from a feminist, anti-patriarchal, and/or anti-heterosexist stance, but Quesada was just whining about how boring and stale and uninteresting his life was once he got married (and what was it like for his wife, I wonder?), so I have little if any sympathy for him.

I know it was only the Hellions Assassin Spider but people seem to use that moment to dog her an awful lot


plus she taught chamber, that's an x-man for the history books