Thor vs Illyria

[KJ Stewart]

If Ilyria can't hurt Thor isn't it just a matter of time then before he takes her out?

Not really, because she could dimension dump him.

[Twickster]

Seriously, Illyria opens a portal to a random dimension and pushes Thor in. She *has* done this before to opponents. Thor isn't particularly heavy enough for Illyria to be unable to push.

Illyria via ring out. Thor faces eternity in a world of shrimp.

[Surtur]

Yeah, I forgot this version of Thor needs his daddy or the bifrost bridge to travel to different dimensions.

[Saitou Hajime]

I'm not sure why she can't hurt him. With her bare hands she can rip through steel like tissue paper, and was shown being able to hang with dinosaurs, dragons, and even full-scale Old Ones. In her most recent mini she got her pre-"Time Bomb" abilities back and due to her epiphany demonstrated some new tricks with them, like binding an Old One with plants and de-aging to back to an infant.

[Surtur]

I'm not sure why she can't hurt him. With her bare hands she can rip through steel like tissue paper, and was shown being able to hang with dinosaurs, dragons, and even full-scale Old Ones. In her most recent mini she got her pre-"Time Bomb" abilities back and due to her epiphany demonstrated some new tricks with them, like binding an Old One with plants and de-aging to back to an infant.

I see, to be honest I figured "Illyria in Fred's body" was supposed to be strictly her feats from the Angel tv series. I have no idea how powerful she was in Fred's body post Angel.

[KJ Stewart]

I'm not sure why she can't hurt him. With her bare hands she can rip through steel like tissue paper, and was shown being able to hang with dinosaurs, dragons, and even full-scale Old Ones.

They were all either completely featless or relatively featless though.

None of them dished out anything near the level of damage that Movie Hulk could cause. And all he did was cause a nosebleed.

In her most recent mini she got her pre-"Time Bomb" abilities back and due to her epiphany demonstrated some new tricks with them, like binding an Old One with plants and de-aging to back to an infant.

That was due to her being near a certain stone that doesn't reflect her standard abilities. And I don't really see what plants would do to Thor anyway.

[Saitou Hajime]

That was due to her being near a certain stone that doesn't reflect her standard abilities. And I don't really see what plants would do to Thor anyway.

She is shown to have retained her abilities long after she left the Deeper Well. And if it worked against a giant like Arsgomor it'd work with Movie Thor.

[Tomzilla]

If Illyria has her comic book feats, then this is one-sided. Thor does have superior strength, durability, and firepower, but Illyria has a particular set of skills that renders those advantages void. Illyria doesn't even need to resort to a dimension dump. She's no longer regulated to just slowing down time; Illyria has complete mastery of time. She can freeze it, slow it, and travel into the future or into the past. She even reversed the aging process of another Old One, turning it into a fetus. Her physical stats have also significantly improved. Nowhere near Thor's level, but she'd still make for an entertaining fight if it ever came to that.

Old One Illyria would not only win, she'd proceed to solo most of the Marvel Movie Universe.

[KJ Stewart]

She is shown to have retained her abilities long after she left the Deeper Well. And if it worked against a giant like Arsgomor it'd work with Movie Thor.

Just being a giant doesn't mean anything. That particular Old One was essentially featless.

Movie Iron Man could beat King Kong. He could probably beat Zilla from the American Godzilla film. He could beat the Cloverfield Monster. He could beat Mega Shark and Giant Octopus combined. Doesn't mean he can hurt Movie Thor.

She has plenty of things going for her to beat Thor. Her physical prowess or ability to control plants (which aren't in Khazan for starters...) aren't included in that list of things.

Also note that the fact she retained the abilities for a while doesn't make them standard.