The Amazing Spider-man #698 Spoiler thread (SPOILERS: YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!)

[stillanerd]

The idea of Pete calling on his old enemies to take down Ock (as him) is brilliant.

This would mean he's reached his breaking point on the 'no kill' rule--and really, who could blame him at this point?

But it would also mean Peter Parker is a dead man!

Or at very least Peter Parker can't be himself any more. But yeah, given what Steve Wacker posted on his twitter of what the titles of the stories in Amazing Spider-Man #700 are...

New body makes sense. Dan mentions the eyes in the marvel now teaser and doc ock is masquerading in the normal Spider-Man get-up right now. Maybe Pete still will be the superior Spider-Man, especially since he has had to watch everything be taken away from him.

Would make sense that Peter's new body would need for his suit to have the crazy hand claws and toe claws and whatnot. Maybe it'll lead to an issue where Superior Spidey fights Ock!Spidey?

It also would explain why the Lizard (who remember is Dr. Connors' mind trapped in his Lizard form) and Morbius are involved So it's possible with their efforts, they could use a perfected regeneration formula to repair Doc Ock's body with Peter's mind (either still alive or downloaded from the gold octobot) inside it.

[stillanerd]

What if Peter has to take the life of his own body whilst he is in another?

A good possibility!

That's where I think things will be heading, most definitely. And the kicker, of course, will be virtually everyone will think "Peter Parker" has been murdered by "Doc Ock" when in fact, Peter Parker is still alive.

[Voulge]

Ok so superior Spiderman is not the same person as Peter Parker, maybe he shares a mind and body with someone.

Future foundation solctits said that this new Spiderman does not like kids.

Thats a big hint that its not Peter Parker.

So it will not be Peter Parker in the drivers seat.

So shared mind or completly someone else.
Also that he does not want to reveal his secret of who he is is also in that same solctits.
So no Parker under that mask.

Sorry its Avenging Spiderman here is what it says:

AVENGING SPIDER-MAN #17
CHRISTOPHER YOST (W) • PACO MEDINA (A)
Cover by PAOLO MANUEL RIVERA
• THE SUPERIOR AGE CONTINUES as the Superior Spider-Man faces the future...
the FUTURE FOUNDATION, that is.
• The Superior Spider-Man is forced to work with the FF as the literal future comes crashing in on them, threatening to destroy the Foundation itself and expose Spider-Man’s ultimate secret!
• PLUS! The Superior Spider-Man doesn’t like kids.

[Doctuh]

I'll ask the only question that matters: Does this mean Spock can be in the next Avengers movie?

[0bsessions]

Or at very least Peter Parker can't be himself any more. But yeah, given what Steve Wacker posted on his twitter of what the titles of the stories in Amazing Spider-Man #700 are...

Can't get Twitter at work, what are they?

[Leocomix]

Onre month ago I called it:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com...1#post16000654

[Stars 'N Stripes]

Can't get Twitter at work, what are they?

spoilers:

"Suicide Run", "Spider-Dreams", and "Date Night"

end of spoilers

[okpanic]

I thought this issue was done really really well. Despite the fact that I guessed there would be a mind swap, and that I noticed something off in the dialogue at one part in particular (what Peter had said in regards to Aunt May), I never clued into the fact that the swap had already happened until Peter and Doc come face to face at the Raft. And then everything made sense for the most part.
I think Slott played his hand just right, here.

Eh, it all depends on how next chapter rolls and if it looks like Peter has a chance to ever get his body back. I personally have no interest in seeing doctor Octopus live his life, and Peter really doesn't deserve to die in such an undignified way. If he actually does die this way and Doc Ock is the new spider-man, I want nothing to do with Superior. I don't read spider-man for a dark story where evil ultimately triumphs.

You don't actually think Peter would be replaced by Doc Ock permanently, do you?

Undignified is the way to go in Marvel now. Just read Uncanny Avengers 1. Did you see what they did to Xavier. That's just shameful and disgusting. But hey Marvel will do that to you.

Not every villain can drop a female character from a bridge, sadly.

[stillanerd]

Ok so superior Spiderman is not the same person as Peter Parker, maybe he shares a mind and body with someone.

Future foundation solctits said that this new Spiderman does not like kids.

Thats a big hint that its not Peter Parker.

So it will not be Peter Parker in the drivers seat.

So shared mind or completly someone else.
Also that he does not want to reveal his secret of who he is is also in that same solctits.
So no Parker under that mask.

Well, consider this--Doc Ock while in Peter's body knows and perhaps is being influenced by Peter's memories, which also means that Peter in Doc Ock's body knows and perhaps is being influenced by Doc Ock's memories. So maybe the reason the Superior Spider-Man doesn't like kids is that, even though it's still Peter, Doc Ock's memories have re-shaped his personality. Second, maybe the reason he doesn't want to reveal the secret of who he is is because Peter now looks like Doc Ock, assuming, of course, Peter is alive and Doc Ock's body get rejuvenated somehow.

[Wiggie_Stardust]

So, probably mentioned already, but:

Dr. Strange casts a spell on Ock, making him think he really is Peter Parker.

Like in Heroes.

[Mesektet]

When he was looking in the mirror and thinking about the scar on his face i was pretty sure he was a clone and the scar was one of those weird clone defects that kaine used to have. I was soo impressed with myself for figuring it out. ooops!

[KevinC]

Something I took note of (which may be nothing):

1. What is the purpose of Peter (or Ock) noticing and recalling how he suffered a minor scratch on his face? The whole line about "these boyish good looks" is enough to allude to Ock being in a new body.
2. The flashback of Hobgoblin throwing razorbats at spider-man while stating "Been a while. Hasn't it, bug?" did not happen like that in the previous issue. Kinglsey did not throw any razorbats at that moment.
3. Is Roderick Kingsley somehow involved in this whole plot with Doc Ock? The new Madam Web saw Kingsley's face and then nothing regarding "the end" of Spider-man. What is that about?
4. Kingsley runs a business in creating/redesigning super villains. Was it Kingsley who helped Doc Ock become the new Spider-man? (it seems Ock will have a new outfit in Superior Spider-man)
5. Kingsley did not agree with Phil to go after Spider-man after he left the fight. This is in Kingsley's character...all about business, but what if it's partially because Kingsley knowns Spider-man is Doc Ock OR Spider-man is about to be taken over by Doc Ock (all those Octibots running around during the Hobgoblin fight)...
6. Lastly, Slott took us on a wide ride throughout the ENTIRE 'Big Time' run to bring back one of Spider-man's top ten villians who has not been featured in Spider-man for over a decade (Roderick Kingsley). Did he really do this for one small story arc about fighting a usurper?

[daddypool]

If that's the case, then the super-villain who was bluffing could be foreshadowing. The Superior Spider-Man might be faking his powerset.

Faking the powerset? Hmmm....Sounds like an opportunity for Kingsley to branch out into the SuperHERO business as well.

[midnightshrink]

First the Green Goblin boinks Gwen and now Doc Ock is gonna boink Mary Jane! Damn poor Peter Parker!

[daddypool]

Something I took note of (which may be nothing):

1. What is the purpose of Peter (or Ock) noticing and recalling how he suffered a minor scratch on his face? The whole line about "these boyish good looks" is enough to allude to Ock being in a new body.
2. The flashback of Hobgoblin throwing razorbats at spider-man while stating "Been a while. Hasn't it, bug?" did not happen like that in the previous issue. Kinglsey did not throw any razorbats at that moment.
3. Is Roderick Kingsley somehow involved in this whole plot with Doc Ock? The new Madam Web saw Kingsley's face and then nothing regarding "the end" of Spider-man. What is that about?
4. Kingsley runs a business in creating/redesigning super villains. Was it Kingsley who helped Doc Ock become the new Spider-man? (it seems Ock will have a new outfit in Superior Spider-man)
5. Kingsley did not agree with Phil to go after Spider-man after he left the fight. This is in Kingsley's character...all about business, but what if it's partially because Kingsley knowns Spider-man is Doc Ock OR Spider-man is about to be taken over by Doc Ock (all those Octibots running around during the Hobgoblin fight)...
6. Lastly, Slott took us on a wide ride throughout the ENTIRE 'Big Time' run to bring back one of Spider-man's top ten villians who has not been featured in Spider-man for over a decade (Roderick Kingsley). Did he really do this for one small story arc about fighting a usurper?

I like your thinking. I hope you are correct. Time will tell.