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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    He built a secret research facility under the White House. Because that's Umbrella's real speciality- sprawling underground complexes built without anyone noticing.

    But the games make no sense because Umbrella has unlimited funds, investors, etc. with no real explanation as to why. Also scientists keep experimenting on their families even though there are plenty of homeless and desperate people to take advantage of.

    The movies actually make more sense than the games, but again, the unlimited funding for superbases underneath metropolitan Tokyo built with nobody the wiser really confuses me.
    Well, Umbrella was a really successful pharmaceutical company. Even with the virus research and the like going on behind the scenes, they were making a killing off of their legitimate products. This applied in both movies and games, IIRC. Less explainable in the movies because of post-apoc. Maybe they started printing Umbrella dollars for their employees to use, since the actual economy must have shattered.

    As for the family experimentation, I remember that it was the scientists experimented on the families of other employees, not their own. Probably bad writing, or Spencer's crazy being made into company policy. Guy never actually cared for profit, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Torment View Post
    Well, Umbrella was a really successful pharmaceutical company. Even with the virus research and the like going on behind the scenes, they were making a killing off of their legitimate products. This applied in both movies and games, IIRC. Less explainable in the movies because of post-apoc. Maybe they started printing Umbrella dollars for their employees to use, since the actual economy must have shattered.

    As for the family experimentation, I remember that it was the scientists experimented on the families of other employees, not their own. Probably bad writing, or Spencer's crazy being made into company policy. Guy never actually cared for profit, after all.
    You just summarized the entire Resident Evil franchise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    You just summarized the entire Resident Evil franchise.
    Hey, at least it's entertainingly bad most of the time.

    Like RE5 Wesker. Pretty much crapped on him as a character, yet he became so cheesy that it was hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    But the games make no sense because Umbrella has unlimited funds, investors, etc. with no real explanation as to why.
    It's actually pretty well explained why. Namely the part where they're a giant international company with several perfectly legal branches.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    Also scientists keep experimenting on their families even though there are plenty of homeless and desperate people to take advantage of.
    Aside from the Ashford, who are specifically nutcases and lived in Antartica, who did that?

    Keeping in mind that Birkin didn't, having only injected himself as a last screw you before he died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    Are we talking movies or games?

    Because both make no sense, but they make different kinds of no sense.
    Games. Feel free to attempt to explain why something that can infect every single life on the planet wouldn't horribly screw over everything if released in a non-contained environment.

    To elaborate, things that the T-Virus can infect:
    Plants, animals. All of them.
    And the part that really screws over everything is that they can all be infected by the same strain of the virus, so it can pass freely from one to the other.
    It can also spread through water to an unspecified degree and can become airborne for an unspecified amount of time.

    There is literally no possible comparison with anything in the real world. If one guy gets infected, then it can be contained.
    If you destroy the corpse before anything else gets infected.
    A crow pecks out a piece of his flesh? Crow's infected. And so is anything that it bites, and then anything that eats it or anything that it bit and so.
    A worm feast on his corpse? Worm is infested and so is the bird that will eventually eat it. See above afterward.

    The fact that an entire city got infested and that not a single infected organism got out of the lockdown is evidence that Umbrella either erected a magical barrier around the place, is impossibly lucky or is ruled by the President of Madagascar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Games. Feel free to attempt to explain why something that can infect every single life on the planet wouldn't horribly screw over everything if released in a non-contained environment.
    Because Dr. Strange, Tony, and Reed would get their shit together and fix it.

    If they can mindwipe the planet in a matter of moments with a combination of magic and nanotechnology, they can mass distribute a cure to a manufactured zombie virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    Because Dr. Strange, Tony, and Reed would get their shit together and fix it.

    If they can mindwipe the planet in a matter of moments with a combination of magic and nanotechnology, they can mass distribute a cure to a manufactured zombie virus.
    Ah, I see.

    You misread what ET said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Torment View Post
    Actually, given the ridiculous infectivity of T-Virus, I think it was noted by somebody (I think it was Siriel) that one vial of it being broken in a public space would be enough to fuck up the real world.
    Yeah, Marvel can deal with it. (Not Tony and not Current Strange, but Reed and whatever magical doctor or reality warper is available, sure.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Yeah, Marvel can deal with it. (Not Tony and not Current Strange, but Reed and whatever magical doctor or reality warper is available, sure.)
    Colossus would just die again, and then inexplicably return once it was all cleared up.

    After Sean Bean and Michael Biehn had died, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Ah, I see.

    You misread what ET said.



    Yeah, Marvel can deal with it. (Not Tony and not Current Strange, but Reed and whatever magical doctor or reality warper is available, sure.)
    In the mindwipe scenario, Tony provided the nanomachines while Strange and Reed actually did the hard stuff.

    I think, I'm not sure.

    But Umbrella originally made the T-Virus as a biological weapon, right? What good is a biological weapon that ends all life on the planet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Colossus would just die again, and then inexplicably return once it was all cleared up.

    After Sean Bean and Michael Biehn had died, of course.
    What are you talking about? Sean Bean never dies in his movies.

    :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Ah, I see.

    You misread what ET said.



    Yeah, Marvel can deal with it. (Not Tony and not Current Strange, but Reed and whatever magical doctor or reality warper is available, sure.)
    Undoubtedly, although I think it'd be a little harder to deal with if the infection ws widespread in the beginning, like a ship full of T-Virus breaking open in an ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Torment View Post
    Well, Umbrella was a really successful pharmaceutical company. Even with the virus research and the like going on behind the scenes, they were making a killing off of their legitimate products. This applied in both movies and games, IIRC. Less explainable in the movies because of post-apoc. Maybe they started printing Umbrella dollars for their employees to use, since the actual economy must have shattered.

    As for the family experimentation, I remember that it was the scientists experimented on the families of other employees, not their own. Probably bad writing, or Spencer's crazy being made into company policy. Guy never actually cared for profit, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    In the mindwipe scenario, Tony provided the nanomachines while Strange and Reed actually did the hard stuff.

    I think, I'm not sure.

    But Umbrella originally made the T-Virus as a biological weapon, right? What good is a biological weapon that ends all life on the planet?
    Assume Wesker puts those plans on hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    But Umbrella originally made the T-Virus as a biological weapon, right?
    In a vague sense. They were experimenting on the Progenitor virus and trying to make something out of it
    Somehow they ended up with a virus that could infect anything and brought people back as zombies and they figured "Hey, we can probably develop something from that".
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosis View Post
    What good is a biological weapon that ends all life on the planet?
    That would be why Umbrella never actually used the thing themselves and spent their time developing more potent but less infectuous variants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    In a vague sense. They were experimenting on the Progenitor virus and trying to make something out of it
    Somehow they ended up with a virus that could infect anything and brought people back as zombies and they figured "Hey, we can probably develop something from that".

    That would be why Umbrella never actually used the thing themselves and spent their time developing more potent but less infectuous variants.
    It's funny that Umbrella was more reserved than future enemies when it came to biological weapons.

    For one, they didn't try to infect everybody in the world like Wesker and later Radames did.

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