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    Quote Originally Posted by kalorama View Post
    They've always been mass entertainment, but they haven't always been big business. That's the change.
    Well, I will only have started reading or following comics as of the mid-eighties and I can tell you as of then there has always been plenty of louthmouth or generic drek around, both as plenty of great or pleasant stuff, provided one would care to seek it out.

    And the thing to do is simply to like what you feel to like with avoiding any stuff you don't feel to like.

    Easy enough. I really have not noticed any commercialness or genericness as being to form a change at any point, since such will have been apparent in the eighties and nineties right up to now, especially among superhero stuff such as Marvel or DC.


    Although I would say that Marvel both as DC might seem somewhat less diverse these days, which would have all other brands to potentially be seeming only the more diverse. And any placing comics into markets as falling into place with some loud and mostly sensationalized movie, I wouldn't think such would be making for good comics per se.

    It will be subjective, but I'd think publishers had best be catering towards creators and the creative talents in order to have them be making quality books and titles.

    So maybe in that sense you might be right, but only as far as Marvel or DC stuff and such will simply not be the only thing which comics would have to offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees_L View Post
    Well, I will only have started reading or following comics as of the mid-eighties and I can tell you as of then there has always been plenty of louthmouth or generic drek around, both as plenty of great or pleasant stuff, provided one would care to seek it out.

    And the thing to do is simply to like what you feel to like with avoiding any stuff you don't feel to like.

    Easy enough. I really have not noticed any commercialness or genericness as being to form a change at any point, since such will have been apparent in the eighties and nineties right up to now, especially among superhero stuff such as Marvel or DC.


    Although I would say that Marvel both as DC might seem somewhat less diverse these days, which would have all other brands to potentially be seeming only the more diverse. And any placing comics into markets as falling into place with some loud and mostly sensationalized movie, I wouldn't think such would be making for good comics per se.

    It will be subjective, but I'd think publishers had best be catering towards creators and the creative talents in order to have them be making quality books and titles.

    So maybe in that sense you might be right, but only as far as Marvel or DC stuff and such will simply not be the only thing which comics would have to offer.
    Not sure what you think I "might be right" about because, no offense, but I have absolutely no idea how any of that relates in any way to the point I made in the post you quoted. (I'm assuming you think it does, otherwise you wouldn't have quoted my post in the first place.) Nothing in my comments had anything whatsoever to do with the "diversity" or "quality of comics, which is what you seem to be worked up over.

    My point was and is: comics are big business now because the potential for profit exploitation is exponentially higher now than it was 20 years ago (although that potential is realized mostly by the use of characters an concepts as IP outside of comics themselves) . That's why comic book conventions have increasingly catered to people outside the traditional and small audience of actual, regular comic book readers, because the people outside that core readership constitute the vast majority of potential customers for the products that are being generated using the characters and concepts from the comics. Comic book conventions are businesses and businesses go where the money is.
    Last edited by kalorama; 11-18-2012 at 01:00 PM.

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