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    Is there a Superman story in which Clark remains engaged with the world and Humanity after Lois dies? In the ones I can think of, he becomes a recluse or a tyrant or something similarly antithetical to who he is supposed to be as a hero.

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    Only one that comes to mind right off might be DC One Million.

    Though I dont remember exactly when Superman moved inside the sun, I believe it was some time (years) after Lois had died. But for all I can recall right now, I might be wrong.

    While All-Star uses the same concept for Clark's "death" One Million was a different tale.

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    Kingdom Come comes to mind. In that story, despite the fact that Lois dies, it is not her death that drives Superman away from humanity. Superman abandons Clark and humanity because he is fed up with contemporary heroes, the public, and the justice system. Also, in Superman: Ending Battle, Manchester Black briefly tricks Superman into thinking his wife is dead. During the short time he was duped, Superman's reaction is continue to be Superman because that's what Lois would have wanted. Maggin addressed Lois' death in Luthor's Gift; Superman did not abandon his values after her death in that story either. He and Lex (a human) resolved their differences, and traveled the universe together for over forty years.

    ETA: There's also DC Universe Online Legends where Superman goes crazy after he personally kills Lois. His mind has been manipulated, though, so I'm not sure how accurate a reflection of how Superman would respond to losing Lois. On Smallville, Clark became a recluse when Lois disappeared into an alternate future. He didn't abandon humanity, and his reclusive behavior was more of a reaction against experiences with failures and betrayals unrelated to Lois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    Kingdom ComeMaggin addressed Lois' death in Luthor's Gift; Superman did not abandon his values after her death in that story either. He and Lex (a human) resolved their differences, and traveled the universe together for over forty years.
    Is that this story here: http://site.supermanthrutheages.com/.../luthors-gift/

    I found it on a quick Google search. Don't believe I've heard of it before. Where was it published?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ascended View Post
    Only one that comes to mind right off might be DC One Million.

    Though I dont remember exactly when Superman moved inside the sun, I believe it was some time (years) after Lois had died. But for all I can recall right now, I might be wrong.
    According to Man of Tomorrow 1,000,000 he left Earth shortly after Lois (and Jimmy, Perry, Ma&Pa, etc.) died...I think it says the turn of next century. He circumnavigates the universe, then goes into the sun in 842,781 (10,000 years before 1,000,000).

    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    Kingdom Come comes to mind. In that story, despite the fact that Lois dies, it is not her death that drives Superman away from humanity. Superman abandons Clark and humanity because he is fed up with contemporary heroes, the public, and the justice system.
    Well, the death of Lois, Jimmy, et al certainly helped him along. The whole Magog thing came at an emotional low point for him.
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    DKR/DKSA Supes didn't abandon humanity, become a hermit, or turn evil because Lois left him (for, evidently, Jim Guardian Harper). He didn't even give up being Clark.

    And, when she dies, in DKSA, he actually takes a more active and involved role than he had been, by accepting his capacity for physical influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupersuper View Post
    Well, the death of Lois, Jimmy, et al certainly helped him along. The whole Magog thing came at an emotional low point for him.
    The irony of it is that he abandons humanity after they didn't condemn the one who killed Lois' murderer (what the hell was the Joker doing in the Planet, anyway? Batman was no fun anymore?).
    I've heard of former sidekicks who have been pissed for less than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clownprince01 View Post
    Is that this story here: http://site.supermanthrutheages.com/.../luthors-gift/

    I found it on a quick Google search. Don't believe I've heard of it before. Where was it published?
    Yes, that's the story. I'm not sure where it was published.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    The irony of it is that he abandons humanity after they didn't condemn the one who killed Lois' murderer (what the hell was the Joker doing in the Planet, anyway? Batman was no fun anymore?).
    Exactly. Superman abandoned humanity because they embraced a form of justice he didn't care for; Lois was not the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    (what the hell was the Joker doing in the Planet, anyway? Batman was no fun anymore?).
    Joker messes with Supes plenty. I guess he just likes the variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dupersuper View Post
    Joker messes with Supes plenty. I guess he just likes the variety.
    Really? The only time I can think of is Emperor Joker, and even then it wasn't specific to Superman so much as Superman being the only one who could stop him.
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    Im suprised he didnt bond with his friends kids and families and stick around for them. If I were immortal thats what I'd do. Step back alittle, make a new identity every 40 years and step in and out of their lives and watch over them generation after generation.

    Now his superkids would be half human and less powerful and immortal with every generation, so he would eventually outlive them too. That might be a fun concept. Almost like Marvels Apocalypse and his cult made up of descendants where the more powerful they are the higher position they have within the cult. Like a multigenerational JSA of super-peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    Really? The only time I can think of is Emperor Joker, and even then it wasn't specific to Superman so much as Superman being the only one who could stop him.
    Superman 9, 2 seperate but related Action Comics in which he poisons Lois, an Action comics while Supes had kryptonite poisoning, tackling Supes and Bats in various Worlds Finest stories...
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