The Avengers DO KILL (in certain situations)

[mikekerrIII]

In such an instance, in every jurisdiction in the United States, the person using the shotgun would be charged for whatever injury occurs to the person using the fists. Self defense to the extent the law doesn't require you to retreat only applies to using equal force for the self defense.

Pleased show me a single state that requires equal force. that is utter and complete bullshit

[mikekerrIII]

http://www.shouselaw.com/self-defense.html#1 Any questions?

that still doesn;t show that the shotgun is unlawful, you don't have to match fist with fist.

[RDMacQ]

What are you talking about?

Are you kidding me with this?

In AvX they invaded an AIM facility to steal a ship and he murdered anyone that tried to stop him

Dude, it's time to give up when even YOU can't even get your own nonsense straight.

[RDMacQ]

If Cyke hyad come after Xavier it would be a crime for Cyke to kill him but Xavier came to where Scott was and attacked Cyke and that makes a huge difference.

Which is bull. Cyke had more power than Xavier. As others have pointed out, Self Defense only works when it's equal force, not excessive force.

Please show me where self-defense laws say that you only have to use necessary force, Not in in state in the US for sure? I taken Concealed Carry classes in three states and that is BS,

I don't have to. Somebody has already done this, which you have ignored.

http://www.shouselaw.com/self-defense.html#1

Cyke defended him self against a group of thugs that came to him and attacked him, that is covered by self-defense even if a scum-bag slaver die in the process

Again, Mike, when you resort to lying about what happens and twisting the facts, it just shows how desperate you are to have a point.

[davew128]

Pleased show me a single state that requires equal force. that is utter and complete bullshit

The only bullshit is coming from your posts, troll. I posted the law. That you willfully choose to ignore is your problem, not mine.

[davew128]

that still doesn;t show that the shotgun is unlawful, you don't have to match fist with fist.

Actually it most certainly did. The defense attorney practically read both the jury instructions and case law and cited an example with someone using a fist and responding with a gun. Now back to your hole.

[Starfish]

Of course should Dark Phoenix Cyclops claim self defense. Worked for another guy in pretty much the same situation, too: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../29/Xgxdfs.png

[RDMacQ]

Of course should Dark Phoenix Cyclops claim self defense. Worked for another guy in pretty much the same situation, too: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../29/Xgxdfs.png

We just missed the panel where Cyclops yelled "HE'S COMING RIGHT TOWARDS ME!!!"