But you could argue that the Black Panther did not need to kill those Skrulls. Regardless, I think we can all say Spider-Man wins the no-killing argument.
It is silly for Spiderman to have a moral dilemma whether to kill villain and save innocent life,In "real life" it is not even question Police will shoot to make sure they live and innocent live.I am fine with Spiderman and Superman types going out of their way to make sure they are never in that dilemma but when they are in situation where they have no choice their is no dilemma.Saving innocent lives is the most important thing heroes do and i am disagree with anybody who thinks Carnage,Sabertooth,Red Skull lives are same as regular person.
60 years ago he was a nazi, but in the last 60 years he wasn't a threat to anybody
Thanks for those posting about Wolverine -- part of the problem with trying not to read books about him is I can't really point to all the places where he kills people (and of course they all tend to be no-name characters -- which makes them harder to remember -- because with the exception of Avengers Arena, Marvel generally only kills off one "named" character per event).
Obviously killing is a polarizing topic -- look at the debate about capital punishment, after all. Personally, I like my Avengers not to intentionally kill, because that's what they did when I grew up reading them. To me, that's one of the things that makes Wolverine such a horrible fit (though there are certainly others). Cap killed without issue under Brubaker, but back in the day with Gruenwald, it was a big deal when he killed someone.
P.S. I know this thread started because the OP doesn't like me complaining about Wolverine, but man, do I ever prefer this argument to the one about diversity.
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There is a difference in killing in the line of duty as a solider/spy and killing as a freelancer.
One guy is James Bond the other is Paul Kersey from the Death Wish movies.
Clearly the Avengers have a problem with the latter variety of killing. That is even Canon.
If Cap or Bucky fatally take down a terrorist, that isn't cause for explusion from the Avengers.
I'm not sure what the point of this thread is, nobody has denied that guys like Cap and Thor have killed.
There is a difference between Thor offing a Troll he's fighting in Asgard and Logan offing mooks as a freelancer on Earth.