We also have no irrefutable evidence Santa Claus isn't real either.In the case of Jesus, we do not have irrefutable evidence that either Jesus or God are not real;
See, this is a problem with you. For some reason you seem to think that myths you personally believe in are acceptible as evidence and can sway opinions of people who have vastly different beliefs.and, additionally, we have the creator of the Universe...
And so are the authors of the bible.The author(s) of Superman are merely peer human beings...
There is no evidence. Not even a smidgen of a clue.At best, in the case of God and Jesus, we only have a minority of people who will remain in denial despite what evidence has been presented or will be presented, short of their bearing witness after their death of God or short of Jesus' second coming.
'The marquis. Well, you know, to be honest, he seems a little bit dodgy to me.'
'Mm,' she agreed. 'He's a little bit dodgy in the same way that rats are a little bit covered in fur."
And unlike you and Castel, I don't think my book is morally superior to anyone else's (or no book). It's simply the one I choose to follow. Nobody deserves to burn in Hell because they don't follow my faith.
Everett Ferguson also got a degree from Harvard; the reasons you provide for not looking up his contribution is not very sound, as just about everybody who sets out on an expedition of discovery has an agenda. Do you think because he obtained part of his education from a Christian college that it somehow invalidates his findings? This person is very knowledgeable of the Persian, Greek, and Roman cultures; he uses that knowledge to than examine the existing culture that existed at the time Jesus lived, than proceeds to examine the early church; his work does not solely reference the Gospels as sources making reference to Jesus and the first Christians (e.g. some of his sources include Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Titus Flavius Clemens, and Tertullian). There is simply no comparison between the evidence that the Nazis relied upon with the evidence that Everett Ferguson relies upon.
They possibly did kill all or most of them, or, at least the ones brave enough to stick up for what they witnessed; history tells us that Christians were killed as a matter of routine during that period; I also said that some of their accounts were likely obliterated through other means; or some their accounts are simply yet to be discovered; they clearly contributed, because they did share their experiences all over, at least by word of mouth, causing the message to go viral and the Christian faith to form; use logic, do you think just five to ten people could have been that effective to cause the word to be spread in so many places during that time period? When Paul set out, the New Testament consistently makes reference to existing groups of Christians that he encountered in furthering his evangelist cause.
Don’t I say, if that’s their only source? That implies that other sources may exist.
Jesus rising from the dead is proven science is your words, not mine; I already said that human logic cannot and does not have to account for the abilities of God, who’s beyond human logic.
Nothing could have gotten warped to the degree that you imply overtime which was relied upon by Christians, because we rely on the Gospels as our starting point and the authors of the Four Gospels were alive at the time of Jesus’ resurrection, or only about one generation removed, while all of the Four Gospels convincingly provide the same account of events with a few minor and insignificant discrepancies. The fact that there is not even more information from that period is likely due to the practices at the time by groups other than Christians, against Christians, which has been the point continually repeated.
Clark seems like a cool dude to me, considering he doesn't demand that you worship him. Sure Superman sounds a bit cocky, but he is kind of super, isn't he? Whereas God... well let's just say if you're gonna call yourself 'God' you're an arrogant prick.
And I know that Supes had his ups and downs storytelling wise, but at least all of his stories are coherent in nature, which you can't really say about that whole God stuff.
Clearly, I'm exercising general civility in the face of the ridicule of a figure like Jesus, if you compare what could be the reaction expressed by another large religion of the last several weeks in the press; try ridiculing that faith and see what civility you get. I know there's an attempt to try pitting Christianity, Judaism, and Islam against one another, but I'm rebuffing the instigation; seems like an attempt to pit the various Christian denominations against one another, as well.
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