Top 10 DC runs of All Time...DUM DUM DUM!

[Dizzy D]

Palmiotti's and Gray's Jonah Hex isn't Vertigo, Preacher and Transmetropolitan are o.o

Transmetropolitan was actually Helix, but later picked up as Vertigo when the rest of Helix collapsed.

[dancj]

I don't care too much, and I didn't create that set of rules, but I hardly think they're 'confusing', and as for arbitrary...well, it's an arbitrary question, yes? Only 3 of your choices would qualify by even the loosest of rules as 'ongoing'. Not exactly rocket science, Sombrero.

That's a bit harsh - and I count six that could loosely be considered ongoings. Top Ten and All Star Superman were (IIRC) never originally announced as limited - they just happened to stop after 12 issues, and Batman: Year One was a four issue run of an ongoing comic.

[Desaad]

That's a bit harsh - and I count six that could loosely be considered ongoings. Top Ten and All Star Superman were (IIRC) never originally announced as limited - they just happened to stop after 12 issues, and Batman: Year One was a four issue run of an ongoing comic.

All Star Superman was quite early on said to be 12 issues with some potential spin offs after. Id' have to check but I recall Top 10 having "1 of 12" on the first issue.

4 issues does not meet the minimum requirement of 9 issues, which I think is a pretty reasonable metric. To say that 4 issues is a real 'run' is, I think, a stretch.

[El Sombrero]

I don't care too much, and I didn't create that set of rules, but I hardly think they're 'confusing', and as for arbitrary...well, it's an arbitrary question, yes? Only 3 of your choices would qualify by even the loosest of rules as 'ongoing'. Not exactly rocket science, Sombrero.

The rules state that All-Star Superman would not count, but Top 10 would...they are both twelve issues long. I would rather just create a list of my favorite DC stories than worry about whether they are classified as a "run," which is what I meant by getting confusing and arbitrary.

[Desaad]

The rules state that All-Star Superman would not count, but Top 10 would...they are both twelve issues long. I would rather just create a list of my favorite DC stories than worry about whether they are classified as a "run," which is what I meant by getting confusing and arbitrary.

I understand, but saying something that is specifically created by an individual is arbitrary is sort of like saying an apple is a fruit.

Top 10 is an ongoing series if mini series; Top Ten product has been coming out for a long while, and another is 'in the works'.

All Star was created to be a finite thing.

Is what you're saying that you don't actually remember enough comics to come up with a 'runs' list and a 'mini/maxi' list? Because that thread exists, and more of your list belongs there than here.

It's not a big deal either way, but since you went out of your way to complain about how 'confusing' the rules were, well turn and turn about.

[El Sombrero]

I understand, but saying something that is specifically created by an individual is arbitrary is sort of like saying an apple is a fruit.

Top 10 is an ongoing series if mini series; Top Ten product has been coming out for a long while, and another is 'in the works'.

All Star was created to be a finite thing.

Is what you're saying that you don't actually remember enough comics to come up with a 'runs' list and a 'mini/maxi' list? Because that thread exists, and more of your list belongs there than here.

It's not a big deal either way, but since you went out of your way to complain about how 'confusing' the rules were, well turn and turn about.

I don't really see comics as runs vs minis/maxis, I think the two can be directly compared and you don't need to separate them. Then add in laziness and my personal dislike of this rules system and you get what I posted.

I don't really feel like arguing about this anymore, I didn't intend this to turn into a debate or whatever. I listed my top 10 DC stories (regardless of how they were published), that's really all I wanted to do. I guess just disregard the rules complaining at this point.

[Billy Batson]

Transmetropolitan was actually Helix, but later picked up as Vertigo when the rest of Helix collapsed.

I know, but only 12/60 were from Helix. Makes more sense to call it a Vertigo book.

[RonG]

Grant Morrison's Batman
Geoff Johns / David S Goyer / James Robinson's JSA (+ Johns' JSoA)
Warren Ellis' Planetary
Geoff Johns' Green Lantern
Ed Brubaker's Point Blank / Sleeper
Geoff Johns' Flash (Wally West)
Grant Morrison's JLA
Warren Ellis' Stormwatch / The Authority

[DonEMC]

1. John Ostrander's The Spectre (I can't understand why this isn't in trade paperbacks like Sandman and Swamp Thing)
2. John Ostrander's Suicide Squad (this series was way ahead of its time and other SS series haven't even come close to being as good)
3. Alan Moore's Swamp Thing (enough has already been said of this one)
4. Marty Pasko/Thomas Yeates' Saga of the Swamp Thing (the most underrated, yet beautifully-drawn Swamp Thing, in my opinion)
5. Keith Giffen/Robert Loren Fleming/Bob Oskner Ambush Bug (several appearances before his first mini-series, the Son Of mini-series and then Stocking Stuffer and the Nothing Special)
6. Cary Bates' and Carmine Infantino's The Flash (my all-time favorite Flash stories)
7. Michael Fleisher's Jonah Hex (I love what is being done with Jonah now and it's great, but Fleisher was the definitive writer for this character)
8. Marv Wolfman's and George Perez's New Teen Titans
9. Geoff Johns' Flash
10. John Byrne's Superman

[Sandor Clegane]

If we go DCU-centric, first and foremost is Alan Moore's Swamp Thing. After that is 7 more, in no particular order:

Doom Patrol - Grant Morrison
Detective - Englehart / Rogers
Batman - O'Neil / Adams
JLA - Grant Morrison
JLA - Englehart / Dillin
Batman - Moench / Newton
Starman - James Robinson


Some honorable mentions:

Dennis O'Neil's Question
Grant/Breyfogle's Detective
Mark Waid's Flash
Geoff Johns' Green Lantern
Mike Grell's Green Arrow
Cary Bates' Flash
Len Weins' JLA
Cary Bates' Captain Atom
Fox/Infantino Adam Strange
Broome/Kane Green Lantern

[vicvega]

John Ostrander's Suicide Squad
Mike Grell's Green Arrow
Ellis/Robertson's Transmetropolitan (vertigo is part of DC heheh)
Dennis O'Neil's The Question
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing
Robinson/Goyer/John's JSA
Alan Grant/Norm Breyfogle's Batman
Peter Milligan's Shade the Changing Man
Matt Wagner/Steven Seagle/Guy Davis' Sandman Mystery Theatre
Jack Kirby's entire 4th World saga

Honorable Mentions:
Rucka/Brubaker/Lark's Gotham Central
Gail Simone's Secret Six
Grant Morrison's JLA
Grant Morrison's Animal Man
Silver Age Superman (don't remember who wrote it but I picked it up in archive editions and it's a blast)

[Lemurion]

Hard to do, but here are some books I would include:

Denny O'Neil - Batman
James Robinson - Starman
Paul Levitz/Keith Giffen - Legion of Superheroes
Grant Morrison - Batman
Keith Giffen/J.M. DeMatteis/Kevin Maguire - Justice League (International)
Roy Thomas - "Earth 2"
Mike Grell - Green Arrow
Gail Simone - Secret Six

Those eight are all I can think of off the top of my (aching) head right now. I could add other deserving runs like Gaiman's Sandman, O'Neil's Question and many others... but I choose not to right now. And no, they are not ordered.

Honorable mention to Archie Goodwin and Walt Simonson's Manhunter, as well as Howard Chaykin's Ironwolf (neither of which meet the criteria).

[Coyote2010]

My favorites, close to the rules as I could get,,, would love to include the Ellis Wildstorm stuff and lots of others from childhood days...
1. Jim Shooter's Curt Swans Legion of Superheroes,
2. Superman numbers 300 to 310, I think its mostly Carey Bates and Curt Swan but I think Jose Luis Garcia Lopez gets in there as well as Maggin, Wein, and who knows?
3. Morrisons JLA (Superman and Batman too but the art changes)
4. Englehart Rodgers Batman
5. Alan Moores Swamp Thing
6. Gaimans Sandman (I thought it was Vertigo)
7. Kirbys Fourth World
8. Bob Haney Jim Aparos Brave and Bold Batman
9. Giffen and Levitz Legion of Super Heroes
10. Kurt Busieks Superman

[Johnny P. Sartre]

1. Moore and Co - Swamp Thing
2. Ellis and Co- Planetary
3. Milligan and Co - Shade
4. Wagner/Seagle and Co - Mystery Theatre
5. Seagle and Co- House of Secrets
6. Carey and Co - Lucifer
7. Dysart and Co - Unknown Solider
8. Milligan and Co - Human Target
9. Morrison and Co - Doom Patrol
10. Morrison and Co - Animal Man

[Babylon23]

DCU
1. Jack Kirby's Fourth World books, most notably New Gods
2. Drake/Premiani Doom Patrol
3. O'Neill/Cowan Question
4. Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans
5. George Perez Wonder Woman
6. Roy Thomas' All-Star Squadron
7. John Ostrander's Suicide Squad
8. James Robinson's Starman
9. Goeff John's JSA
10.Geoff John's Green Lantern

Honourable mentions: Moench/Kelly Jones Batman, O'Neill/Admas Batman and Green Lantern, Mike Grell's Green Arrow, Ostrander's Spectre, Gotham Central, Kirby's Kamandi, Simonson's Orion.

Everything else:
1. Morrison's Doom Patrol
2. Gaiman's Sandman
3. Wagner/Seagle Sandman Mystery Theatre
4. Moore's Swamp Thing
5. Ellis' Planetary
6. Moore's Top 10
7. Milligan's Shade the Changing Man
8. Busiek/Anderson Astro City
9. Ennis' Preacher
10. MIlligan's Human Target