All-New X-Men, #1

[Super Kazuya]

I've read most of the previews that have been floating around, but this had a few quotes I hadn't read from Bendis yet:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2...eries/1702589/

[imperial90]

I've read most of the previews that have been floating around, but this had a few quotes I hadn't read from Bendis yet:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2...eries/1702589/

Huh, that was actually a really interesting article, good to know people are gonna give Beast shit for this time travel mess, its the least he deserves.

[ZNOP]

Huh, that was actually a really interesting article, good to know people are gonna give Beast shit for this time travel mess, its the least he deserves.

You say that as if it's a crime... Time travel, forwards or backwards, made some of the best story arcs known to X-Fandom.

Well, now that I think about it... No one is as guilty of time crimes then Bishop is.

[imperial90]

You say that as if it's a crime... Time travel, forwards or backwards, made some of the best story arcs known to X-Fandom.

Well, now that I think about it... No one is as guilty of time crimes then Bishop is.

Well they did send a kill squad to stab him repeatedly, I'd say people weren't to fond of his screwing around with it either.

[Kaiolino]

Bendis doesn't do codenames. He does proper names (Jessica Jones, Scarlett) or brick-to-face obvious descriptives (The Hood).

I'm surprised "Eva" isn't called "Shit Haircut".

I thought The Hood was created by BKV.

[Deus ex Chris]

I've read most of the previews that have been floating around, but this had a few quotes I hadn't read from Bendis yet:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2...eries/1702589/

Fun article. I love his enthusiasm. He mentioned new costumes, and I'm ready to see them. Storm needs another as badly as the originals do and Kitty almost as badly.

[Nicoclaws]

I've read most of the previews that have been floating around, but this had a few quotes I hadn't read from Bendis yet:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2...eries/1702589/

Isn't Mystique already A-list ?

[semicyon]

Not sure if this counts as spoilers but the thing that annoys me about this first issue is that Marvel already published the ending in their previews... their teaser was really the end punchline of the issue. Yes, they are going to publish the second issue in a couple of weeks so that, essentially, the content of a double-sized launch issue will be in stores for November. It's still a crappier user-experience than if they just published a double-sized issue. However, I wonder if it will turn out to be more profitable to split the publication of this story like this (i.e. getting customers to pay $3.99 for each issue rather than just charging 7.99 which many consumers would balk at). Reading this issue was like having the urge for a sneeze that never arrives.

[Ian Pressman]

Isn't Mystique already A-list ?

I wouldn't consider her A-rank. All her recent storylines are based on taking revenge for this and taking revenge for that, with no goal beyond "JUSTICE AT LAST". Popular Media always depicts her as Hench-girl number 1. Until the movies and cartoons stop depicting her as Magneto's sidekick, and the comics get her past her Logan-fetish and on to some juicier schemes, she's B+ at best.

[s_stabeler]

this is probably a spoiler, but i was absolutely shocked by the JGS staff's arguments in this book. Criticizing Scott for rescuing mutants? (They never actually criticize the only part i think Scott should be criticized for, which is what he said to the camera.) Isn't that basically what the X-Men originally did? ( IIRC, they protected humans from rogue Mutants and mutants from bigots) I can understand they're worried about the school, but that's always been a threat; Scott's hardly exacerbating it.

Beast appears to be dying, TBH, with how he's been acting, I can only say "good riddance"- AFAIK, he stood with the Avengers in AvX from the start, he outright lies to the past X-Men (he claims Scott's committing Mutant Genocide, when Scott is trying to protect mutants.)

Predicton- the O5 point out that Scott's closer to Xavier's vision than the JGS staff ( the JGS staff seem to be going for appeasement, which is NOT Xaiver's dream.) but also give Scott a clue-by-four- Scott might be closer to Xavier's dream, but he doesn't need to go on about mutants being superior.

[Saku]

I........... actually really liked this. A little surprised considering I have not enjoyed Bendis at all lately. Kinda a bummer it ends on what was already previewed though. That was dumb. Also, about Beasts plan. I, like many, think Beast is being an idiot here, but it kinda has an explanation. Beast is sick/dying, and on serious medical drugs. No wonder the dummy thinks getting the teen versions of the Xmen is a good idea. I am not sure the comic will present things this way, but thats the way I see it. And come on............ the X pose was so lame it was awesome. I am totally on team Cyclops

[aggiefromno]

I'll preface with the fact that I didn't read AvX: Consequences which apparently explains that Cyclops escaped from prison and has decided to start his own Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. It was jarring as without that, I had no idea that Cyclops is now ready to aggressively attack humans rather than just protect mutants. Why declare war on the Australian Federal Guard and burn a police station to the ground when his team can just port in and port out? Freed from the Phoenix, they have written Cyclops as having no moral compass anymore which feels very wrong. As for Magneto, I'm sure it feels like old hat, but then again he was only following Scott because Scott had united all of mutantkind, an accomplishment that failed, so why necessarily continue to follow him? And Emma returns despite being psychically backstabbed by Scott. Her motivations seem the hardest to explain. Her history has been with students, and she almost left Utopia except for Scott. Why would she go on by his side after what he did?

My other issue is with the time travel. Now if bringing the original five members into their future actually causes MASSIVE changes in X-Men history, it will be a very interesting ride. For example, if Jean finds out about the Phoenix and Scott, will that mean that she will actively tries to spurn the Phoenix when she first gets it or never gets married to Scott? And if so, that changes EVERYTHING that we've come to know about our current X-Men because of those butterfly ripples. But I don't think they will do that. There will be some device that erases any character growth the original five will experience in this book which negates any reason to care for their characters.

While I don't like how they've tainted Scott's conscience, if they are to stick with that characterization, then talking to his "Christmas past" shouldn't do a damn thing. They are five people from a different time, so essentially a different reality, so why would Scott think they would have any footing to talk about a world they don't live in. He's already ignored their future selves so why listen to a less experienced version of the same song. It seems like an extremely selfish and moronic thing for Beast to do, two things that Hank is not, no matter what fatal development Bendis created for him.

And as it seems there's no fixing Cyclops' new path to villain, I'm ready to just talk myself into this being a different reality. That way I can remember that I liked Cyclops' character before they gutted him and see this new guy they've created as someone else. And in that case, Storm and her crew should treat him like the Magneto of old, confront him at every new mutant he goes to rescue, stop the violence he incurs, and offer the option of a school to learn about the mutant's new powers...you know, cause they actually have a school.

(how'd this soap box get underneath me?)

[imperial90]

I'll preface with the fact that I didn't read AvX: Consequences which apparently explains that Cyclops escaped from prison and has decided to start his own Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. It was jarring as without that, I had no idea that Cyclops is now ready to aggressively attack humans rather than just protect mutants. Why declare war on the Australian Federal Guard and burn a police station to the ground when his team can just port in and port out? Freed from the Phoenix, they have written Cyclops as having no moral compass anymore which feels very wrong. As for Magneto, I'm sure it feels like old hat, but then again he was only following Scott because Scott had united all of mutantkind, an accomplishment that failed, so why necessarily continue to follow him? And Emma returns despite being psychically backstabbed by Scott. Her motivations seem the hardest to explain. Her history has been with students, and she almost left Utopia except for Scott. Why would she go on by his side after what he did?

1. The Brotherhood of Evil mutants goal was to take over the world and enslave mankind, Cykes renegade X-men's goal is to recruit and train mutants so that they can better fight for their own and other mutants freedoms. Cykes faction are not the Brotherhood at all.

2. Scott now believes all governments are at best indifferent to the suffering of mutant-kind, at worst they are adding to it. As such he didn't declare war on them, he went through them so he could achieve his objective, rescuing Eve from being dragged into a system that hates, fears and is already prejudiced against her.

3. Scott's moral compass is the entire reason he's doing this, he's not doing this cause he wants to take over the world, he feels a need to protect his emerging people. If he had no moral compass at work he'd have just taken off his visor which would have killed all those police officers and a city's block worth of people. A Scott with no moral compass is a Scott indifferent to collateral damage, and if you think what Scott did was that, you haven't seen a Cyclops that's tired of playing nice with people.

4. Magneto follows Scott because he believes in Scott's new path, he actually did learn his lesson after M-day, trying to enslave humanity would not get him what he wanted, safety for mutant-kind, as such he doesn't fit in anymore with Mystiq's new Brotherhood of evil mutants, while Scott's militant approach to protecting mutants is far more in line with his current beliefs then those of the staff at the JGS. As he said "I come not to bury Caesar but to praise him", he believes Scott is a better leader then he ever was, the Phoenix driving him mad does not detract from that belief.

5. Don't act like Emma was innocent here, Scott strangled her after telling her to stop thinking about and planning how to kill every one on the planet. She also had just finished feeding him human flesh without telling him until he'd already eaten some. She also told him that while Namor was wrecking Wakanda she and him were mindfucking like crazy. She even provided Scott the sensations she experienced during it. Scott strangling her was not just the result of him wanting more power, with everything she did and told him just before it happened its almost like she wanted him to strangle the Phoenix out of her.

[RobertoDaCosta]

the previews had already given much of the plot for this issue... so there wasn't nothing new..
i do agree that Scott is only saving mutants, how can the JGS staff not sympathize with that?? especially when these new mutants are treated so badly by authorities..
i dislike the fact that Eva looks exactly the same as Rachel, what's the point??
also the fact that they created these characters with such POWERFUL mutations (time manipulation & healing/resuscitation) is bad news since those characters tend to die or disappear...
they r too dangerous to be running around unattended