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    Dear Kirby! You mean he can possibly mature less?!!?!!?!! Of course he should be allowed to mature more. It's better than the stagnant death he's become.

    Peter strikes me as the type of person that has kept an actuary table since he was 5.

    Edit: Okay, well, at least since Uncle Ben died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Slott View Post
    I think the people at Marvel are FOOLS for not letting Spider-Man mature more!
    He should have aged ONE year-- EVERY year! That's REALISM, darn it!
    Spider-Man #700 should be a book about Peter Parker's hip replacement surgery! Why can't NONE OF YOU SEE THAT?!
    And why don't we ever see Peter Parker going over his actuary tables?! Or getting a prostate exam?! Get on that Marvel!
    lol if you wrote it well i might read that as a back up story.

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    Refusing to allow Peter to mature comes with it's own set of problems.

    If he dates something has to go wrong eventually, because if the relationship is allowed to progress it could lead to marriage, children and other signs of maturity. After awhile a deal with the devil becomes necessary to derail a healthy relationship.

    If he has a job, being Spider-Man has to screw it up eventually, because if it doesn't then the entry level, part time thing might evolve into a career and again that makes Peter too mature. No matter how many years Peter goes on as Spider-Man he's never allowed to develop any successful strategies for balancing his super-heroing against a day job.

    Not maturing traps Peter in an endless cycle of screwed up relationships and screwed careers. If he ever learns from earlier failures that's gaining maturity, and that makes him old which Marvel won't stand for. So Peter has to endlessly sabotage his own life by never, ever figuring out how to deal with the non-superhero side of his life.

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    If he would mature more in the Ultimate Spider-man cartoon, sure!
    Peter Parker + ' 'with great power there must also come great responsibility '' = Spider-man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Slott View Post
    I think the people at Marvel are FOOLS for not letting Spider-Man mature more!
    He should have aged ONE year-- EVERY year! That's REALISM, darn it!
    Spider-Man #700 should be a book about Peter Parker's hip replacement surgery! Why can't NONE OF YOU SEE THAT?!
    And why don't we ever see Peter Parker going over his actuary tables?! Or getting a prostate exam?! Get on that Marvel!
    So is Superior Spider-man going to be about a 65 year old Peter Parker? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Slott View Post
    I think the people at Marvel are FOOLS for not letting Spider-Man mature more!
    He should have aged ONE year-- EVERY year! That's REALISM, darn it!
    Spider-Man #700 should be a book about Peter Parker's hip replacement surgery! Why can't NONE OF YOU SEE THAT?!
    And why don't we ever see Peter Parker going over his actuary tables?! Or getting a prostate exam?! Get on that Marvel!
    I take it you don't read Judge Dredd... Not saying Spidey should be the same, but your sarcasm is making it sound like a real-time comic isn't worth anyones time.

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    Yes at least at a certain rate. I honestly prefered the married spidey to the single one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Slott View Post
    I think the people at Marvel are FOOLS for not letting Spider-Man mature more!
    He should have aged ONE year-- EVERY year! That's REALISM, darn it!
    Spider-Man #700 should be a book about Peter Parker's hip replacement surgery! Why can't NONE OF YOU SEE THAT?!
    And why don't we ever see Peter Parker going over his actuary tables?! Or getting a prostate exam?! Get on that Marvel!
    Just to play Mephisto's Advocate here.

    The real mistake was limiting the effects of his deal. Pete should have ended One More Day back in high-school. The character was created as a teen hero, not a college graduate.
    Keep it close to when Uncle Ben died- don't want him to lose touch with his motivation.
    Limit his romance- more than one date and Peter might run the risk of seeming to mature.
    No one can die besides Ben- that would make it seem like time must be passing.

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    They should never have written anything beyond amazing fantasy #15, they should just have reprinted that one issue every month for the last 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    Refusing to allow Peter to mature comes with it's own set of problems.

    If he dates something has to go wrong eventually, because if the relationship is allowed to progress it could lead to marriage, children and other signs of maturity. After awhile a deal with the devil becomes necessary to derail a healthy relationship.

    If he has a job, being Spider-Man has to screw it up eventually, because if it doesn't then the entry level, part time thing might evolve into a career and again that makes Peter too mature. No matter how many years Peter goes on as Spider-Man he's never allowed to develop any successful strategies for balancing his super-heroing against a day job.

    Not maturing traps Peter in an endless cycle of screwed up relationships and screwed careers. If he ever learns from earlier failures that's gaining maturity, and that makes him old which Marvel won't stand for. So Peter has to endlessly sabotage his own life by never, ever figuring out how to deal with the non-superhero side of his life.
    How is constantly free lancing as a photographer not able to get passed that. It did for many many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Slott View Post
    I think the people at Marvel are FOOLS for not letting Spider-Man mature more!
    He should have aged ONE year-- EVERY year! That's REALISM, darn it!
    Spider-Man #700 should be a book about Peter Parker's hip replacement surgery! Why can't NONE OF YOU SEE THAT?!
    And why don't we ever see Peter Parker going over his actuary tables?! Or getting a prostate exam?! Get on that Marvel!
    First off chill out. Secondly, just because you age a character doesn't mean they have be doing all of those things you can still tell great stories even with aged characters For Example Bruce Wayne's an old man in Dark Knight Returns, Batman Beyond, Kingdom Come among many other series and media forms and they still manage to tell great stories. Same has been done with super-man and honestly he always worked better to me as an aged and slightly darker character.

    But that's a little to much DC for this forum so I'll throw in a couple of marvel characters. Back in Invincible Iron man #500 they told a story about an elderly Tony stark where he killed the Mandarin and with the help of his son and granddaughter they saved the world from the Titanomechs the Mandarin created to enslave the earth an it was an awesome story. Old man Logan was another great example of a aged wolverine being the best he is at what he does. They even did it with the MC2 spider-man making peter middle aged and allowing his daughter to put on the mask and if I remember correctly that series was met with great critical success

    To try and say that a good story can't be done with an aged versions of iconic super heroes is idiotic and lazy on the part of the writers who say it can't be done when that is clearly not the case. When you think all that lies ahead for a character when they get old is prostate exams and old folks homes when they have super powers or keep in peak physical form over the years is just stupid to me there's always a great story to be told no matter the age of the character as long as the person writing the book has the imagination to do it.

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    I would say yes, the character needs to mature progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerkaya View Post
    I would say yes, the character needs to mature progress.
    It has worked in the MC2 universe, as well as Earth-9997. However, imagine a future Peter Parker who has 8 adult children from 6 alternate timelines coming together to fight his greatest threat because his defeat affects their respective timeline? That sort of story could work very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Comic Book Critic View Post
    First off chill out. Secondly, just because you age a character doesn't mean they have be doing all of those things you can still tell great stories even with aged characters For Example Bruce Wayne's an old man in Dark Knight Returns, Batman Beyond, Kingdom Come among many other series and media forms and they still manage to tell great stories. Same has been done with super-man and honestly he always worked better to me as an aged and slightly darker character.

    But that's a little to much DC for this forum so I'll throw in a couple of marvel characters. Back in Invincible Iron man #500 they told a story about an elderly Tony stark where he killed the Mandarin and with the help of his son and granddaughter they saved the world from the Titanomechs the Mandarin created to enslave the earth an it was an awesome story. Old man Logan was another great example of a aged wolverine being the best he is at what he does. They even did it with the MC2 spider-man making peter middle aged and allowing his daughter to put on the mask and if I remember correctly that series was met with great critical success

    To try and say that a good story can't be done with an aged versions of iconic super heroes is idiotic and lazy on the part of the writers who say it can't be done when that is clearly not the case. When you think all that lies ahead for a character when they get old is prostate exams and old folks homes when they have super powers or keep in peak physical form over the years is just stupid to me there's always a great story to be told no matter the age of the character as long as the person writing the book has the imagination to do it.
    Err,it was a joke.
    And all the examples you gave were not part of stories of a ongoing series as Spider-Man which stories are placed in the regular continuity or if they were they were stories done in issue as the Iron Man 500 story.

    Anyways Spider-Man have progressed,thus why the question of this topic seems a bit irelevant.
    Peter Parker becoming one of the main scientist at Horizon Labs is a example of that.
    Heck he now is basically as one of the scientist that was responsible by the acident in Amazing Fantasy 15 which passed radioactive powers to a spider (See the Alpha storyline in ASM that have Peter Parker doing a scientific demonstration)
    That shows the progression of Spider-Man especially since the start of Big Time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Comic Book Critic View Post
    First off chill out. Secondly, just because you age a character doesn't mean they have be doing all of those things you can still tell great stories even with aged characters For Example Bruce Wayne's an old man in Dark Knight Returns, Batman Beyond, Kingdom Come among many other series and media forms and they still manage to tell great stories. Same has been done with super-man and honestly he always worked better to me as an aged and slightly darker character.

    But that's a little to much DC for this forum so I'll throw in a couple of marvel characters. Back in Invincible Iron man #500 they told a story about an elderly Tony stark where he killed the Mandarin and with the help of his son and granddaughter they saved the world from the Titanomechs the Mandarin created to enslave the earth an it was an awesome story. Old man Logan was another great example of a aged wolverine being the best he is at what he does. They even did it with the MC2 spider-man making peter middle aged and allowing his daughter to put on the mask and if I remember correctly that series was met with great critical success

    To try and say that a good story can't be done with an aged versions of iconic super heroes is idiotic and lazy on the part of the writers who say it can't be done when that is clearly not the case. When you think all that lies ahead for a character when they get old is prostate exams and old folks homes when they have super powers or keep in peak physical form over the years is just stupid to me there's always a great story to be told no matter the age of the character as long as the person writing the book has the imagination to do it.
    Dan Slott was just joking. Chill out lol

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