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    Zero Effect (at least the gym scene in which we first see him in action).

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    I'll add Unbreakable.

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    The two big ones in my eyes that haven't been discussed are The Royal Tennenbaums and Touch of Evil and they are for roughly the same reason. In both films first viewings Orson Welles and Gene Hackman's characters are almost cartoonish villains,
    I never considered Hackmans character in RT a cartoonish villain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by T Hedge Coke View Post
    A reveal, even a game-changing reveal doesn't ripple back and alter the movie irrevocably for me, but with something like Funny Games, from the moment we, the audience, and indicted for these attacks, it does change, because the fourth wall stops being a shield for indulgence. Arguably, Inland Empire and Masked & Anonymous build around some of the same central ideas of freedom or indemnity, and M&A opens mimicking the parting of theater curtains and telling us to remember it's all a play, while IE opens with a recording telling us it's the longest running radioplay in et cetera et cetera... but with IE, that it's staged went in my eyes and ears and straight out the back of my head for another forty minutes or more and then it hit and when I watched it since, well, I know.
    I found Funny Games' indictment less than compelling. In fact, I more or less ended up blaming Haneke for the whole stupid movie.

    Inland Empire was quite different the second time I watched it, as well as the third time, but I can't attribute either of these cases to the ending. The first time I watched Inland Empire I stopped it after two hours. I didn't give it another chance until about a year later.

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    When I saw "Inception," I imagined Christopher Nolan editing down to the one frame where the top starts to stop spinning, leaving enough wriggle room to let people choose their ambiguity. Other than that too-cute move, it was a really good heist flick that made perfect sense. I saw it once.

    "Memento" I just kept on the player all weekend, watching it over and over to break down the narrative (both the black-and-white mini scenes cut with the backwards larger scenes both moved the narrative forward to the point where Guy Pierce's revelation that he'd been played went from color to black and white at the end).

    Then he programmed himself immediately to kill Teddy to stop from being an on-demand assassin. Last scene, he's riding his car to the tattoo parlor realizing he's been using his "condition" to falsify his long-term memories and sets himself up to get out of being Teddy's pet killer (and, seemingly, go back to a mission that he felt was pure and true even though it was wrong, but which made him feel better). Saw that movie at least 70 times.

    One movie I can't watch more than once is everything Stephen Spielberg has done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T Hedge Coke View Post
    On the "rewatch with more scrutiny" front, most nice girls who turn killer movies work that way for me, since I am the target empathizer. I can't stand to watch people embarrassed in movies, so if you build a character out of how misled or embarrassed they are by other characters, I'm sideswiped when they start gutting and dismembering even if I sort of know it's coming. On rewatches, I can focus easier on the fact they were always dangerously off. (Those of you who know my "good date, bad idea" story know this extends to real life.)
    you might like the movie 'The Hole,' starring Thora Birch and Keira Knightley ; if you already haven't seen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty_Cristo View Post
    you might like the movie 'The Hole,' starring Thora Birch and Keira Knightley
    I like it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothDZX View Post
    Thank you. I like Chris Nolan and all but I think people beat off to how great he is too much.

    I think that's mostly comic book fans who good crazy over his Batman movies...which are the least interesting movies the guy has made, although Inception wasn't very interesting either.

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    High Tension (or Haute Tension, if you prefer)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Tension
    That ending ruins the whole movie. Nothing about it makes any sense, it feels like something just added in because, and it turns out that's what it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simbob4000 View Post
    That ending ruins the whole movie. Nothing about it makes any sense, it feels like something just added in because, and it turns out that's what it was.
    you just really have look at it from the perspective of someone who has lost their mind. it was a retelling by an unreliable narrator. but i had the same issues; like with the decapitated head scene towards the beginning. they were definately cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty_Cristo View Post
    you just really have look at it from the perspective of someone who has lost their mind. it was a retelling by an unreliable narrator. but i had the same issues; like with the decapitated head scene towards the beginning. they were definately cheating.
    It cheats all the time. There are just to many things that don't make any sense because of the ending, it completely destroys what could have been one of the best slasher movies around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simbob4000 View Post
    I think that's mostly comic book fans who good crazy over his Batman movies...which are the least interesting movies the guy has made, although Inception wasn't very interesting either.
    I love Inception and the two Batman films I've seen. I really liked Memento, but I don't think I'd ever watch it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggs View Post
    Angel Heart and Fight Club.

    Angel Heart is a great film. But after you've seen it once. Repeat viewings are depressing, knowing that Harry is doomed from the start.
    Not me. I've rewatched the film so many damn times. Gets better each watch.
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    In Total Recall, was Arnold a bad guy that was brainwashed with a new identity and the human being with the new identity deciding that he liked the new identity better or was he never really a bad guy to begin with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    In Total Recall, was Arnold a bad guy that was brainwashed with a new identity and the human being with the new identity deciding that he liked the new identity better or was he never really a bad guy to begin with?
    The film doesn't really even give you a clue towards that question [other than him being a violent, murderous dickhead, but it's an Arnie film, he's always like that in action films], and you can pick whatever version that suits you best.
    'The marquis. Well, you know, to be honest, he seems a little bit dodgy to me.'
    'Mm,' she agreed. 'He's a little bit dodgy in the same way that rats are a little bit covered in fur."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    In Total Recall, was Arnold a bad guy that was brainwashed with a new identity and the human being with the new identity deciding that he liked the new identity better or was he never really a bad guy to begin with?
    It could be that he is still in the dream chair imaging that he was part of a giant conspiracy and ended up saving Mars and bringing a breathable atmosphere to the planet. Pretty farfetched, so maybe he is a lowly trade worker the whole time.
    It's Phillip K. Dick, so reality is mutable.

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