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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave Sir Robbin View Post
    Being an Arab Muslim is what makes him so interesting and gives the writer the potential to do more. The character is a man of science and study from a time when Europe was in the Dark Ages. Most breakthroughs in science and math from that time were from the Muslim world. (everyone knows Algebra and zero, but there was a lot more) And this character himself is puts great importance in the fact that he approaches this insanity going on with a rationale mind and humanity. He and shining knight strike me as the two that bring a strong personal moral code to this world. Shining knight with his devotion to the greater ethics of chivalry and Al Jabr being a devout Muslim with his belief in the rationale world. So I would like to see more of both of them, especially Al Jabr since he gets short shrifted. He also brings the outsider point of view that works well in group dynamics, like Spok.
    That was one of the brilliant things that Cornell did with this book. He included some real world aspects of the time period to go along with all the fantasy aspects of the book. The East/Muslim world was a place of science when the west was plunged into the Dark Ages.

    I'm really gonna miss Cornell on this book and as a DC fanboy it pains me to see him go back to Marvel. I wonder if we'll get a tell all down the road of his experience with DC and how it fell apart. After his Action run it seemed like he would be one of their top guys. I wonder if it was his disapointing run on Stormwatch. Oh well, I'm just going to savor next month's epic battle.
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    So glad everybody here in these boards aren't making a fuss about the "reveal". Over at the newsarama discussion (Facebook) page it's just bigots crying about how they want all their superheroes to be straight white males. It's sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Chang View Post
    So glad everybody here in these boards aren't making a fuss about the "reveal". Over at the newsarama discussion (Facebook) page it's just bigots crying about how they want all their superheroes to be straight white males. It's sick.
    There wasn't really a reveal to me though. She just said she's both and Cornell said 'It's up to your interpretation'. Does she mean that literally or mentally or what? I don't really consider that a reveal though it is a little weird depending on what she meant. I hate that kind of vague 'reveal'. Maybe it'll be a little more specific later.

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    It's basically gotta be vague though, because the book takes place in the Middle Ages when concepts like 'transgender' and 'intersex' hadn't even come to be yet. I'm pretty confident with the interpretation that he's a transgendered man born as a woman, since his deal for the whole book has been people knowing he's a woman based on her appearance, but him insisting he's a dude.

    Edit: Man those Newsarama facebook comments are crazy. But it's pretty clear that it's people who've never read the book and never considered reading the book getting all righteously indignant just for the fun of it. I mean, it's not like this 'reveal' wasn't built up to over the course of 14 issues or anything!
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthnat View Post
    It's basically gotta be vague though, because the book takes place in the Middle Ages when concepts like 'transgender' and 'intersex' hadn't even come to be yet. I'm pretty confident with the interpretation that he's a transgendered man born as a woman, since his deal for the whole book has been people knowing he's a woman based on her appearance, but him insisting he's a dude.

    Edit: Man those Newsarama facebook comments are crazy. But it's pretty clear that it's people who've never read the book and never considered reading the book getting all righteously indignant just for the fun of it. I mean, it's not like this 'reveal' wasn't built up to over the course of 14 issues or anything!
    True but Paul Cornell could be more specific at least. Either way it's not too big a deal that I'm not gonna pick up the book I just get leery when things stay vague but there was at least the 'I'm both' confirmation even if what that means isn't necessarily clear.

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