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    Everything for Big Fire BitVyper's Avatar
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    He has no feats to suggest that he could think before Shigure cuts him in half for example.
    Well, I'm not sure the HSD characters are quite fast enough to react to the bell (although they obviously react faster than him) and cover 100 feet before he can think 10/10 times, speed of thought being 30/ms for nonspeedsters, and I don't recall slicing time ever taking anything else, as we've seen it used reflexively. Furthermore, Lu Tze has save points, so if he does get going, killing him might not actually kill him. My point with the lightning bolt thing was mainly that he can slice time deep enough right off the bat that a lightning bolt becomes something he can react to and catch up with. I'll give you the durability thing though, only time slicing + deja fu means he can do just about anything he wants to them if he isn't killed immediately, so he might be able to manage something. But no, you're right, he probably can't hurt the majority of them even if he can strike them any way he wants any place he wants. Maybe death by kancho? He could at least make them really uncomfortable....

    Anyway yeah, I don't see anything short of phasing or something like Sue Storm literally putting a TK bubble in his brain or heart straight up bypassing Ryoga's durability. Even constricting blood vessels is a little bit iffy if they don't have feats like Manchester Black's.

    Edit: And yeah, I'd really like to know which character in HSD did this, 'cause straight up chi magic seems really out of character for HSD. I can't recall any technique where they haven't given a clear physical description of what was happening except maybe for Hayato's memory-wipe thing, but that was Hayato, and he gets away with anything.
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    Hayato's memory punch or Akisame/Female YAMI member's juijitsu (specifically their ability to make people flip themselves with aura feints) would be their best offensive bets, though in the latter case he might injure them by flipping in the wrong direction considerig he smashed the w rong area of a room after sensing Kiima and her goons.

    Of course, this will be assuming that Ryouga will remain conscious after most of the buxom female cast inevitably ends up naked, which is silly.
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    I think Ma Kensei did stuff like that, as well as causing the surface of a spring spray up with a palm strike and resurrecting the recently dead with traditional chinese medecine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitVyper View Post
    Well, I'm not sure the HSD characters are quite fast enough to react to the bell (although they obviously react faster than him) and cover 100 feet before he can think 10/10 times, speed of thought being 30/ms for nonspeedsters, and I don't recall slicing time ever taking anything else, as we've seen it used reflexively.
    Given the utterly bonkers speed feats that they have and that I listed on the first page of the thread, trust me, yes they are. Lu Tze is too slow to think before he's got a fist through his head.

    Furthermore, Lu Tze has save points,
    Which specifically require prep which he doesn't have here.

    Edit: And yeah, I'd really like to know which character in HSD did this, 'cause straight up chi magic seems really out of character for HSD. I can't recall any technique where they haven't given a clear physical description of what was happening except maybe for Hayato's memory-wipe thing, but that was Hayato, and he gets away with anything.
    As Drunkard lists; HSDK Masters have a bunch of chi based stuff. People who have been confirmed to have durability bypassing stuff are Ma Kensei, Sakaki, Hayato and some of Yami but I forget who.

    Other weird stuff includes shutting down people's organs through sutra chanting, paralysing people through sutra chanting and apparently walking on walls with no visible means of support.

    The weakness with the organ punching is that the most prominent characters who can do it are Katsujinken fighters, meaning they don't fight to kill so, off the top of my head, I don't know if they've used them on a person of consequence.

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    Also, I find it hilarious that chi magic is considered strange for HSDK when it's had masters paralyzing people via fighting aura pretty much from the start.
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