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    I'm actually going to vote Chaz for a few reasons.

    1. Amora's "ward" on TP is done after Xavier had already read minds which means Shadow King may have a chance and nothing has been provided to prove otherwise)
    2. The teleportation ward will effect all teleportation excluding her own so Diablo's teleportation would be blocked as well. Also where does above them mean when they are on top of a peak?
    3. Diablo's winds didn't really effect Thing and I'd say Skaar is stronger, his moves still gets off.
    4. Cloak doesn't have standard teleportation, he enters a different dimension. Amora's scan only stops standard teleportation not entering other dimensions.

    Maybe it's just because I am a fan of all things Asgardian so I know Amora's strengths and weaknesses (and frankly almost drafted her) but I feel she is over-used and said to do things beyond her precision. That being said Amora (as with all Asgardian's) does have some natural resistance to telepathy. Over recent years though this resistance has been diminished I feel like Shadow King would have a shot against her.

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    RF makes a few good points. Depending on what Val or Chaz says next may depend on who I vote for. I enjoyed both strats equally, so to me, this match solely relies on the more persuasive arguement. It's been pretty back and forth and I'm torn.
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    In order to attempt to sway votes I will say simply this:

    I think my teams "story" is more fun. Also They don't make claims to be able to beat everyone, just because of what they are, but they make every attempt they can to prove it through action not boasting.

    I also attempt to simply win through strategy, not popularity as my opponent has claimed is all that matters. It's been clear that I'm not trying to win friends with some of my arguments, though I regret how that comes off sometimes. But as I'd rather the strat be judged by it's own merits as opposed to the occasional jerk who wrote it, well then that is what it is. And it is supposed to be fun and writing the strats is fun for me, so I choose to believe that writing them the best i can might still matters more then my popularity.

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    Well said chaz
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaZ X View Post
    In order to attempt to sway votes I will say simply this:

    I think my teams "story" is more fun. Also They don't make claims to be able to beat everyone, just because of what they are, but they make every attempt they can to prove it through action not boasting.

    I also attempt to simply win through strategy, not popularity as my opponent has claimed is all that matters. It's been clear that I'm not trying to win friends with some of my arguments, though I regret how that comes off sometimes. But as I'd rather the strat be judged by it's own merits as opposed to the occasional jerk who wrote it, well then that is what it is. And it is supposed to be fun and writing the strats is fun for me, so I choose to believe that writing them the best i can might still matters more then my popularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Flush View Post
    I'm actually going to vote Chaz for a few reasons.

    1. Amora's "ward" on TP is done after Xavier had already read minds which means Shadow King may have a chance and nothing has been provided to prove otherwise)
    He read the other evil guys in Doom's army minds, and as soon as he touched hers she found out he was snooping, she decided to keep the contact to mock him and then closed it. He only got as far as he got because she allowed him to. It is quite clear in the scna.

    2. The teleportation ward will effect all teleportation excluding her own so Diablo's teleportation would be blocked as well. Also where does above them mean when they are on top of a peak?
    She can choose who teleports, and who doesn't. Where on top? Floating above them, it's not that difficult..

    3. Diablo's winds didn't really effect Thing and I'd say Skaar is stronger, his moves still gets off.
    read the page again, he's not using the winds against Thing, he's using them against Torch. He's trapping Thing with the ground, so no need for wind.

    4. Cloak doesn't have standard teleportation, he enters a different dimension. Amora's scan only stops standard teleportation not entering other dimensions.
    Illyana teleports through limbo, just like Cloak teleports through the Darkforce Dimension. It's the same type of teleportation, which is the teleportation blocked in the scan.

    Maybe it's just because I am a fan of all things Asgardian so I know Amora's strengths and weaknesses (and frankly almost drafted her) but I feel she is over-used and said to do things beyond her precision. That being said Amora (as with all Asgardian's) does have some natural resistance to telepathy. Over recent years though this resistance has been diminished I feel like Shadow King would have a shot against her.
    I would love it if you were able to provide scans for this... "diminished" telepathic resistance. I have read all Amora appearances and have seen none.

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    Another tie!?
    lol perfect.
    At this point, Matt should just declare a winner of the whole league and just be through with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Sonic View Post
    Another tie!?
    lol perfect.
    At this point, Matt should just declare a winner of the whole league and just be through with it.
    I love it because Matt has stated very clearly he does not like breaking ties. Whoever gets to the next battle has to PROMISE to do their best to get another tie :p

    As for this battle I tell matt:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valeria Kementari View Post
    Well spoken. You should be a politician. A republican given your ability to lie and pretend.
    I'll admit to the sounding like a politician here. But the Republican thing is too far. Also I didn't lie about anything and pretend is kinda part of making up a strategy isn't it? ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaZ X View Post
    I'll admit to the sounding like a politician here. But the Republican thing is too far. Also I didn't lie about anything and pretend is kinda part of making up a strategy isn't it? ;)

    Whoever wins, wins. But let's keep it civil, Sarah Palin I Mean Val
    lol I love Palin, she's a crazy bitch with a shotgun, what's not to love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valeria Kementari View Post
    lol I love Palin, she's a crazy bitch with a shotgun, what's not to love!
    Well... there you have it...

    (LOL I was honestly just trying to find someone to possibly use as a negative on the democrat side, but comparitively I like most of them.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaZ X View Post
    Whoever wins, wins. But let's keep it civil
    You sound like a true Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valeria Kementari View Post
    lol I love Palin, she's a crazy bitch with a shotgun, what's not to love!
    You should go hunting with Dick Cheney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Mengsk View Post
    You should go hunting with Dick Cheney.
    well he is about my age...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valeria Kementari View Post
    lol I love Palin, she's a crazy bitch with a shotgun, what's not to love!
    It's moments like this that make me <3 you
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