DC government agencies vs Marvel government agencies

[Red Winter]

Okay fanboys who has the coolest & toughest intelligence agencies in comics, DC or Marvel? Which operatives can match wits & ability with Bond & Bourne?

[Beadle]

Okay fanboys who has the coolest & toughest intelligence agencies in comics, DC or Marvel? Which operatives can match wits & ability with Bond & Bourne?

Secret Warriors Nick Fury makes Bond and Bourne combined look like Laurel & Hardy, prep-wise.

[BitVyper]

Aren't most of Marvel's heroes ostensibly working for the government post-Civil War? Or is that retconned?

[big_adventure]

Aren't most of Marvel's heroes ostensibly working for the government post-Civil War? Or is that retconned?

They were ordered to, but many didn't. There were still Initiative teams around. Secret Invasion started and ended, and then during Dark Reign/Siege, it became REALLY mandatory as Normie sent out Thunderbolts to catch/kill non-complying folks that he didn't like. After Siege, Cap takes over and rescinds the SHRA, so nobody does anything they don't want to do. Of course, if you've beaten Stilt-Man at least once, Cap wants you on the Avengers, so...

[MorphyVSFischer]

Aren't most of Marvel's heroes ostensibly working for the government post-Civil War? Or is that retconned?

Hell the JLA is now a explicitly U.S. Goverment run agency.

[StupidMoniker]

Seems like this would basically be SHIELD vs. Checkmate/Suicide Squad. I like the DC setup better personally. Either one has tons of operatives that crap all over Bourne and Bond.

[Captain Midnight]

Hell the JLA is now a explicitly U.S. Goverment run agency.

Lets hear it for the new 52 one more time.

[Legato]

Lets hear it for the new 52 one more time.

So much for making DC different from Marvel

[Dark Soul # 7]

Marvel wins because there're so many secret DC government organisations that they can't decide who's in charge and fight eachother.

[Beadle]

Well, if we're talking "All-Time" then Marvel wins because Sentry: Agent of SHIELD says shut up.

[MorphyVSFischer]

So much for making DC different from Marvel

No, it is different. The classic JLA is not run by the Goverment, which is why the american goverment created there own team in the first place to counteract them.
So no not that much like Marvel.

[Beadle]

Except Marvel did that too when Osborn was in charge. Granted, they weren't exactly heroes, but....

[MorphyVSFischer]

Except Marvel did that too when Osborn was in charge. Granted, they weren't exactly heroes, but....

If were going to count every single thing that might be considered a borrowed idea were going to be here for a while.

[BitVyper]

If were going to count every single thing that might be considered a borrowed idea were going to be here for a while.

That's the problem.

[MorphyVSFischer]

That's the problem.

But both companies borrow ideas from each other quite often, so I don't see why NU52 is being singled out when this can be pointed out as a thing that has been happening since the inception of both companies.
I mean can I pretend its the 60's for a it and bitch about how the Avengers are totally a rip off the JLA and not be fair whatsoever in regards about how they are being written?