Caiera the Oldstrong vs Jack (Mass Effect) vs Asaijj Ventress

[Derek Metaltron]

Three of fiction's baddest, baldest, palest ladies with anger issues battle it out in a fight of Old Power, Biotics and the Dark Side to determine who is superior. Who wins?

Bonus: Somehow these ladies sit down and talk (fairly) civilly. What happens?

[Estrecca]

Versions involved?

[Derek Metaltron]

Versions involved?

The 616 comic version of Caiera prior to her death, Jack around Mass Effect 2 and Ventress during the Clone Wars cartoon.

[big_adventure]

Caiera had the ability to rip up at least a city-sized chunk of ground, didn't she? And her son, with her power, did TONS more than that. Plus, she's not a fragile fleshy, she's tough as hell, and can thus just AoE the joint. Am I missing something?

[Estrecca]

Caiera had the ability to rip up at least a city-sized chunk of ground, didn't she? And her son, with her power, did TONS more than that. Plus, she's not a fragile fleshy, she's tough as hell, and can thus just AoE the joint. Am I missing something?

Depending on version, Ventress has SOME telepathy oomph and potent telekinesis.

CGI Ventress, not so much.

[BitVyper]

I'm gonna focus on Ventress/Jack, because it sounds like Caiera stomps them both.

One big problem Jack has is that, IIRC, lasers go right through mass effect fields, so if Ventress gets close, her shields might not stop a light sabre (although now that I think of it, isn a light sabre actually contained in some other kind of field? In that case, a mass effect field should stop it just fine). That said, her biotics are almost certainly more potent than Ventress' force powers. Jack took out four ymirs very quick succession with nothing but biotics (we know she one shotted at least one), and it usually takes a few rockets just to get through an ymir's shields. Ventress doesn't have anything quite on that level that I can recall, so Jack probably breaks her from a distance at the outset with biotic burst or something.

[Estrecca]

One big problem Jack has is that, IIRC, lasers go right through mass effect fields, so if Ventress gets close, her shields might not stop a light sabre (although now that I think of it, isn a light sabre actually contained in some other kind of field? In that case, a mass effect field should stop it just fine). That said, her biotics are almost certainly more potent than Ventress' force powers. Jack took out four ymirs very quick succession with nothing but biotics (we know she one shotted at least one), and it usually takes a few rockets just to get through an ymir's shields. Ventress doesn't have anything quite on that level that I can recall, so Jack probably breaks her from a distance at the outset with biotic burst or something.

Tartakovsky Ventress likely could beat Jack rather easily. Her fight in the arena was very impressive.

CGI Ventress probably won't perform quite as well, though she could pull a win against Jack.

[BitVyper]

Tartakovsky Ventress likely could beat Jack rather easily. Her fight in the arena was very impressive.

What feats are you thinking of? I recall the series, but I don't recall her doing anything with her TK like easily totalling four heavy mechs that usually take multiple explosives just to punch through their shields to their armour, in as much time as it took Shepard to run down a flight of stairs. We know at least one of them was one-shotted, and Jack did this while unarmed and having just been unfrozen, meaning no biotic amp or access to Shepard's tech upgrades either. Over the course of the game, her biotics were directly upgraded repeatedly. I think Ventress had some good lifts with her force TK, but she wasn't wrecking anything with that level of durability that I can recall. Starting at range and with standard equip, I think Asajj will have too much trouble with Jack's biotics to put her greater mobility and speed to much use. If she isn't overcome by Jack's biotics alone, then as soon as she's off balance, Jack probably just shoots her.

Now if Ventress manages to close, then Jack is pretty much screwed at close range.

[Estrecca]

I am thinking of the arena fight and her breaking in half the giant stalactites.



Seeing that kinetic barriers are unlikely to inconvenience Force telekinesis, which isn't based around manipulation of gravity fields, Jack has not much of a defense against being split in half.