Buffy Summers (B:TVS TV Show) vs Steve Rogers (Captain America/Avengers movie).

[Siriel]

Angel's magical ability to leave cars without making a sound is more of an utterly unexplained stealth thing that he never shows under any other circumstances.

I mean, he does show stealth, but never on that level.

[BitVyper]

There are a couple bits in Angel where characters poofed without a stealth explanation, or in situations where stealth only qualified as part of the explanation, but they're so few and far between that the only one I can really remember is Connor getting Cordelia that towel. That said, Connor getting Cordelia that towel was used as an establishing scene in-series for his speed - that part of the scene pretty much plays out as "this is vampire super speed" complete with dialogue - so I'm not sure it can really be SvsFL'd away. It's obviously not bullet time though, and I'm not sure how many degrees worth of characters it could be extended to, but I'd suggest that it's probably best to keep the feats relegated to their own series. Their speed is probably about as superhuman as their strength, so far enough above human to be notable, but just a bit.

Edit: We do know Buffy can pace a full bus that's been accelerating as fast as it can for at least twenty seconds or so, so I'd guess her running speed probably maxes out around 60ish kph.

[Siriel]

that part of the scene pretty much plays out as "this is vampire super speed" complete with dialogue - so I'm not sure it can really be SvsFL'd away.

Keeping in mind that SMvsFL applies to things that are outliers compared to a character's more consistent portrayal, I don't see how the point of the scene matters on if a feat is SMvsFL or not.

For example, the point of the actual Spiderman VS Firelord fight was to show that Spiderman's determination could totally overcome the fact that he was fighting an Herald of Galactus. It...still makes no sense.

[BitVyper]

Keeping in mind that SMvsFL applies to things that are outliers compared to a character's more consistent portrayal, I don't see how the point of the scene matters on if a feat is SMvsFL or not.

From the rules:

"Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities."

SvsFL is primarily for outliers that actually contradict the character's established abilities. Vampires and Slayers have always had some nebulous low level of super speed, and there are feats in each series that demonstrate this. None of those feats are beyond what the characters powers should be sufficient for (someone with the muscle strength to warp a prison cell probably could run hella faster than a normal human, for instance), and they aren't radically beyond established abilities. They're just rare, and that's not enough for SvsFL.

I wasn't suggesting that an establishing scene necessarily trumps SvsFL, just that the fact that it's a clear establishing scene makes it even harder to SvsFL the feat. Really though, there's no SvsFL case to begin with. Simple rarity doesn't make it SvsFL.

[Pendaran]

Honestly, everyone from Batman to Dean Winchester have done the appear out of nowhere on people/vanish when they look away. Unless they all have superspeed too, I'm dubious on this being some testament to it.

[dupersuper]

ends in blonde children

[Powerboy]

There are a couple bits in Angel where characters poofed without a stealth explanation, or in situations where stealth only qualified as part of the explanation, but they're so few and far between that the only one I can really remember is Connor getting Cordelia that towel. That said, Connor getting Cordelia that towel was used as an establishing scene in-series for his speed - that part of the scene pretty much plays out as "this is vampire super speed" complete with dialogue - so I'm not sure it can really be SvsFL'd away. It's obviously not bullet time though, and I'm not sure how many degrees worth of characters it could be extended to, but I'd suggest that it's probably best to keep the feats relegated to their own series. Their speed is probably about as superhuman as their strength, so far enough above human to be notable, but just a bit.

Edit: We do know Buffy can pace a full bus that's been accelerating as fast as it can for at least twenty seconds or so, so I'd guess her running speed probably maxes out around 60ish kph.

Because of the rough terrain and the circumstances, I don't think we can make those sorts of assumptions about how fast the bus was going. Mind you, its feasible compared to her overall speed, fast but not aim dodging speed (and I mean NOT bullet aim dodging).

I do remember scenes of implied speed such as Darla moving across a room off-camera within a fraction a second to confront Cordelia. But its off-set by a lot of on-camera scenes that were nowhere near that fast.