Superman: Earth One Vol. 2 **SPOILERS**

[dupersuper]

I loved the "I'll probably have a lot of explaining to do about it one day" line about his cat burial.

while his sex life has been joked about, it's never been seriously addressed. And now I know why. Fanboys on message boards just can't be mature about it.

I don't think that's why most any writer has ever not done anything.

Didn't he make a porno with Big Barda in John Byrne's Superman run?

Close. Barda made one, but Scott found them in time to prevent Superman porn career.

I actually didn't mind the storyline with Lisa.

My biggest issue was the subplot with the dictator. I really liked how the storyline started, but the resolution was far too simplistic, not to mention a tad disturbing. It's very naive to believe that Clark didn't end up indirectly killing hundred if not thousands in the resulting coup. Sure, it's not the worst thing in the world, but it's not Superman. As with volume 1, even though this was quite different, I was reminded of the far superior Africa storyline from Birthright.

Same here: I loved the idea of a frustrated Superman thinking back on what he should have said and what he could have done, but the solution that killed not only the dictator but doubtless many rebels as well was... very un-Superman.

[dupersuper]

It's like if Michael Bay directed Twilight.

...I...might actually watch that.

[stk]

Same here: I loved the idea of a frustrated Superman thinking back on what he should have said and what he could have done, but the solution that killed not only the dictator but doubtless many rebels as well was... very un-Superman.

On the other hand, that type of simplistic, naive, short-sighted solution is right up Golden Age Superman's alley. "Slums?! I'll knock them down! That way, the Government will HAVE to build cheap, quality housing for the people!" Meanwhile the hundred people living in those slums are now completely homeless while waiting for the government to step up-- a day which would never come. What's worse than living in a slum without working heat? Living on the streets in winter, Superman. Great thinking.

[Volderon]

I just got this and finished it, I liked it for what it was, just a no brainer Superman story, thats all I need out of Earth One.

For the poster before that said Lex was portrayed wrong...well...its Earth One, its supposed to be different.

[OldSchoolfan]

I took this down off the shelf and read it a second time. I think this is a much better way to establish a character than how Action comics was handled. I enjoyed reading this the second time as much as the first time and I just wish that "Grounded" could have been this good.

Too many people got stuck on the Lisa LaSalle character, I actually found it a little refreshing and it made Superman/Clark that much more relatable. A little more down to earth. JMS did a lot in this story and its so fluid you don't notice it.

[Vidocq]

...I...might actually watch that.

Bella would have some awesome, awesome boobs and that fight at the end would have been in the 4 movies.

I took this down off the shelf and read it a second time. I think this is a much better way to establish a character than how Action comics was handled. I enjoyed reading this the second time as much as the first time and I just wish that "Grounded" could have been this good.

Too many people got stuck on the Lisa LaSalle character, I actually found it a little refreshing and it made Superman/Clark that much more relatable. A little more down to earth. JMS did a lot in this story and its so fluid you don't notice it.

This Superman is not Jesus and that's GREAT. It's different, that's the whole point of an Elseworlds, Jesusman is flying happily in the Nu52. This is set in a more cynic world and Clark is just reacting to it, but he is still better than it and thrives to change it. There is a lot of humanity in the book it is very awkwardly done at places but still good.

[Vidocq]

That said, I just got Birthright and everybody keeps telling me how it went for the same goals and how much Earth One sucks in comparison.

[Ironman2978]

Bella would have some awesome, awesome boobs and that fight at the end would have been in the 4 movies.




This Superman is not Jesus and that's GREAT. It's different, that's the whole point of an Elseworlds, Jesusman is flying happily in the Nu52. This is set in a more cynic world and Clark is just reacting to it, but he is still better than it and thrives to change it. There is a lot of humanity in the book it is very awkwardly done at places but still good.

How is New 52 Superman any more or less of a "Jesusman" than JMS Earth One Superman(who could get any Job he want, and reluctantly choose to be Superman because of his parents and an alien invasion)? Is Superman:Earth One and it's sequel good reads yes. But personally I would rather take New 52 Superman, Birthright Clark, Smallville Clark, Clark in the "It's Superman" by Tom DeHaven and a few other Clark/Superman over Earth One JMS Clark any day.

[Mr. Holmes]

Yeah what a ridiculous thing to say. JMS's Superman if anything is much more Jesus-y than either Morrison or Lobdell's Superman.

[OldSchoolfan]

I feel a little like the VP candidate that told Dan Quayle, "I knew Jack Kennedy and you sir are no Jack Kennedy".

Does Superman have messianic overtones....yes to a degree. Should he be compared to Jesus? No way, for a lot of reasons.

As far as New 52 Supes goes, I am still not sure who he is.....Grant Morrison has told us so little. Our assumptions about what we see on the page are moving the story more than any exposition he has provided in my view. It's a bad way to do a reboot, whereas Earth One V. 1 and 2 have been exceptionally clear.

[Vidocq]

How is New 52 Superman any more or less of a "Jesusman" than JMS Earth One Superman(who could get any Job he want, and reluctantly choose to be Superman because of his parents and an alien invasion)? Is Superman:Earth One and it's sequel good reads yes. But personally I would rather take New 52 Superman, Birthright Clark, Smallville Clark, Clark in the "It's Superman" by Tom DeHaven and a few other Clark/Superman over Earth One JMS Clark any day.

Yeah what a ridiculous thing to say. JMS's Superman if anything is much more Jesus-y than either Morrison or Lobdell's Superman.

Ok, to be honest, I haven't read the Nu52 Superman, I just assumed that they continued the trends of the past, if you say that he doesn't then I guess I take your word for it, my bad.

[Ironman2978]

Ok, to be honest, I haven't read the Nu52 Superman, I just assumed that they continued the trends of the past, if you say that he doesn't then I guess I take your word for it, my bad.

It's not a big deal, I didn't know you never read any of the New 52 stories. I liked Superman: Earth One but I have to agree with Mr. Holmes on the fact that JMS Superman had way way more of a Jesus tone to him than Morrison Superman( which #0, #1, #2,#3,#6, #7,#8 and#10(basically the first Morrison arc explained Superman personality quite clearly to me)
-In Action Comics#10 when he is one of the first meetings with the Justice League after Justice League#6:"This world is crying out for change, for fairness, and justice and... I'm in a room with the king of an undersea empire, an Amazon Princess, and a billionaire playboy. There are people starving in fear, alone. Right now, somewhere, someone is being tortured, a child is dying of starvation..you understand that."
or in Action Comics#6 when he and Pa Kent are discussing his at the time unknown kryptonian heritage and how he should make the House of El Symbol stand for something of the #6 back up with him explaining to Pete Ross in #6 why he wants to be a reporter:
"I like writing. It's like. It doesn't matter how strong or smart you are. Finding the right words is always challenging."
and especially #8 where he said: "Otherwise, I don't think I've changed my attitude much. I'm here to stand up for people when they can't stand up for themselves and I'm here to help out and make things better anyway I can. I'm here to stay."

Like OldSchoolfan said Superman has a lot of Messianic tones, especially since the Bronze age story and Richard Donner movie has been more of a Jesus comparison which has gotten little more annoying as time went on(this is a coming from a Christian himself) but compared to JMS Superman in my opinion who has more of a Messianic overtone when compared to New 52 Superman(especially Action comics Superman and Justice League Superman) who is just a man with superpowers who is trying to change the world for the better using his job as a reporter as well as his powers as Superman.

[Mr. Holmes]

I remember there was one guy here who went more in detail about the Christ parallels on Earth One. I think JMS said he's atheist, but likes using those themes. (Edit: Just found it).

Morrison outright rejected that in his All Star Superman interviews. He's said that the similarity is only there because the Christ story itself is based on Jewish and pagan myths, and Superman is more inline with Hercules or Apollo than Jesus. The main difference is that Superman is a brawler, he doesn't turn the other cheek.

[dupersuper]

How is New 52 Superman any more or less of a "Jesusman" than JMS Earth One Superman(who could get any Job he want, and reluctantly choose to be Superman because of his parents and an alien invasion)? Is Superman:Earth One and it's sequel good reads yes. But personally I would rather take New 52 Superman, Birthright Clark, Smallville Clark, Clark in the "It's Superman" by Tom DeHaven and a few other Clark/Superman over Earth One JMS Clark any day.

Well, he didn't incite a bloody revolution and just fly off...

Yeah what a ridiculous thing to say. JMS's Superman if anything is much more Jesus-y than either Morrison or Lobdell's Superman.

Jesus is hard pressed to be more Jesus-y than Morrisons Superman.