I personally love Miles and am really looking forward to see him develop further.
You got your Peter Parker in 616, noir, the first, what, 10 years of ultimate, along with 40+ years of 616 back story. Leave Ultimate alone. Dont like it, dont read it.
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I hate miles moreles so much, worst spidey ever. Yes, I want Peter to come back because 616 spidey is boring me to tears recently.
Peter Parker is over at Amzing Spider-Man, anyone that wants to read about him can read that. Ultimate Spider-Man has been excellent with Mile Morales and Miles is here to stay. Ultimate Peter is dead and should stay dead.
Miles has proven to be rather popular and has even drawn in new readers.
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Pichelli's fashion designs are wonderful. Her pictures are pretty. Her action scenes are static and un-dynamic. Bagley is a much, much better action artist than she is, and he's also a better sequential artist and story-teller.
Miles' sales have been better than post-Ultimatum USM, pretty much up to pre-USM numbers, but sort of uppy-downy, sorta like treading water in a cross-current. I don't see this as him as drawing in a legion of new readers. I think that, unless they keep working gimmicks the numbers on USM will eventually slide downward. Miles is just boring. Month after month, nothing really happens for him. He needs a new writer if he's going to survive as long as Ultimate Peter Parker did.
Edit: Yea in October it was number 57. I can't ever recall seeing it that low during Bendis/Bagley's run.
October 2004: 7
October 2005: 13
October 2006: 18
October 2007: 20
October 2008: 42
October 2009: 24
October 2010: 55
October 2011: 37
I wouldn't say that Miles is bringing in new readers...I'd say he is shedding old readers.
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That said, if you want to keep "superstar" creators on Marvel and DC books, then do it the right way. Let every title stand alone. Don't try to shoehorn the Punisher into the latest Avengers event, it doesn't work. X-men titles don't tie into each other. You don't have to explain why Wolverine is in Avengers and X-men because the two books don't really relate to each other. Have the creators submit ideas for multi-issue arcs that can literally have anything happen, even the death of the title character. At the end of that, reboot the character with the next creative team. That way Peter Parker doesn't have to be Spider-man -- anyone can be for an arc or two. Then even if a character has been killed off, he/she can be brought back without jumping through hoops. Want to see how things would have gone if Peter Parker had been raised by his parents? You can do that. Want to see a WWII Spider-man -- there you go! Forget the decades of burdensome continuity. Let every comic be like All-Star Superman (easily the best Superman story I've ever read). If you want the best stories the big names can turn out, turn those guys loose. Remember: every single superhero comic story you've ever read is imaginary. None of them really happened.
But if you're going to keep a serialized universe going, then you have got to get rid of the "It's Bendis!" mentality.
I think that the idea of getting a writer other than Bendis to work on some of the potential Spidey-Spin Offs we've been discussing has some merit. To be honest; While I recognize that Bendis can spin a compelling tale; I've grown tired of his story telling style. Peter stubs his toe, Six Frakkin issues, MJ breaks a nail, Another six Frakkin issues, Really? Everything that has ever happened in the Ultimate Spidey-Verse took place in One Year? I'll be pushing Ninety before Miles hits his Fourteenth Birthday.
Miles is Bendis' baby, I feel he should be allowed to develop the character as he wishes. Personally I would like to see Ultimate Spider-Woman and Ultimate Scarlet Spider featuring Peter/Ben Reilly as an ongoing series under a new Writer(s).
This is something that the market and companies have helped to create. Heck the whole Marvel Now idea was born out of creators switching titles. I've heard it suggested a few other places, but I wouldn't mind seeing 12 issue volumes on books with a new creator every 12. It is almost what Ultimates has done.
And I trust in everything Bendis outside of the Marvel U. Powers, Scarlet, and even Brilliant have all been decent reads. I will read anything Brubaker/Philips put out. And I absolutely love Rucka. Anything he writes I will buy without question.
I see your issue, but I'm not sure it is something that needs "fixing".