I'm ready for Peter to come back? Who's with me...

[Drz]

Ugh people viewing their opinions as statistic facts instead of common sense. C'mon Plawsky and Wolverine, this is a horrible horrible subject you've entered.

"Yeah well i have more personal value" is an excuse over facts and doens't change the truth.

[sonicx1977]

Without reading this whole thread:

They shouldnt bring Peter back, because he is dead and everyone is usually complaining about resurrections. Bendis risked something with Miles and it worked out great. So, bringing Peter back is a step back in the usual direction, no progress.

[Xistel]

Without reading this whole thread:

They shouldnt bring Peter back, because he is dead and everyone is usually complaining about resurrections. Bendis risked something with Miles and it worked out great. So, bringing Peter back is a step back in the usual direction, no progress.

Actually, if we only look at the numbers, it didn't work out great, as there has been a 33% decrease in USM comics in one year.

[Chaos_Alfa]

Actually, if we only look at the numbers, it didn't work out great, as there has been a 33% decrease in USM comics in one year.

That's not enough evidence to support that claim. The same thing could also have happened if Peter was still alive.

[Xistel]

That's not enough evidence to support that claim. The same thing could also have happened if Peter was still alive.

I guess, but what we do know is that those are the numbers. Of course we don't know what it would be like with peter.

[Plawsky]

Ugh people viewing their opinions as statistic facts instead of common sense. C'mon Plawsky and Wolverine, this is a horrible horrible subject you've entered.

"Yeah well i have more personal value" is an excuse over facts and doens't change the truth.

You haven't posted a single statistic. You're saying "you get more for your money at DC." You get more WHAT?

You get more pages. And that's absolutely true. There is absolutely a price-per-page benefit at DC. But that's not what matters to me. Sure, I would love for my books to have more pages. No one is arguing that. However, I would take 20 pages I really enjoy to 24 pages I don't care for.

I also don't mind paying the same price for a 90 minute movie as I do for a three hour movie.

If page count is the only statistic you want to talk about then sure, you win I guess. But that's hardly what this debate is about. You brought up SALES, and yet I've never seen you post any numbers for sales. You've now twice dodged Wolverine12's question about numbers.

Do you have any actual numbers that show marvels sales increases are only based on the 3.99 price? I would be interested to see them.

I've haven't said anything in this thread about numbers, I asked you to provide me a link to the numbers that show a correlation between Marvels sales numbers, their price point and the amount of free copies they give to retailers.

The closest you've offered to a response is this:

Also the fact you're asking me questions on sales numbers shwos once again you never did actually read the monthly sales of comics, or never understood them like i have asked you. I mean, what sort of question is this? If Marvel comics keep going less and less, but they charge more and release it twice, where do you think the profits come from? If their biggest competition sells more comics, but does it with lower prices & less double ships.

"The fact that you're asking means you don't know." That's basically what you're saying. And it means nothing. Obviously, if he's asking, it's because he doesn't know. If you want to show numbers to back up your argument, then please do. Otherwise, you're either showing that you don't have any evidence or you're just trolling. And you're making claims like "Marvel comics keep going less and less" and "their biggest competition sells more comics" both of which are OBJECTIVELY false when you look at this month's numbers.

[Heroid]

Ugh people viewing their opinions as statistic facts instead of common sense. C'mon Plawsky and Wolverine, this is a horrible horrible subject you've entered.

"Yeah well i have more personal value" is an excuse over facts and doens't change the truth.

I want Peter Parker back. That's a statistical fact. I know because I just polled myself.

[Balfro]

I want Peter Parker back. That's a statistical fact. I know because I just polled myself.

:D

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[linkspirit97]

I'd have liked it if Peter hadn't died, and then taken the 'Ultimate Spider-man' TV show route in comics.

But no resurrection please.

[Mechano]

the ultimate u has no purpose if it is an exact carbon copy of the 616. this was the case before Ultimatum and the Ultimate Spider death. mind you, Ultimatum was still one of the worst comics ever.

[Xistel]

the ultimate u has no purpose if it is an exact carbon copy of the 616. this was the case before Ultimatum and the Ultimate Spider death. mind you, Ultimatum was still one of the worst comics ever.

I don't think the UU was a carbon copy of the 616 Universe before ultimatum. But if it becomes SO different, what's to keep it from not being an alternate universe and merging with the 616?

UU was an updated and frankly better version of the 616.

[bkong0]

I've enjoyed USM since Peter died. I wasn't really reading it before, stopped back around, hmm...issue #60? Shame that there's been a decrease in readers but it's been an enjoyable read for me at least.

[Zipzagg]

Ultimate Peter Parker is one of my all time favorite comic book characters, but I want him to stay dead and I want Miles to stay. As much as I love Peter, his story is complete. His death was tragic, but was a good end for the character. It was powerful, emotional, and moving.

Didnt feel a thing personally. To me it was cheesy, nonsensical, and cliched.

For me, USM ended with the third annual when he and MJ have that talk. Nothing past Ultimatium ever made sense to me, so I don't count any of it as canon. That's just me though, if you enjoyed it, the more power to you.

I actually like Miles stint as Spidey, and really enjoy his stories, but Ultimate Peter's tale was far from done. Being cut down in the prime of life without getting to experiance adult years or becoming a father and creating a legacy with MJ is NOT what I would call a "complete story".

[Zipzagg]

Wow so I guess overwhelming response on these boards is to keep him dead.

I wouldnt worry about that. Comic fans are sheep. If Bendis wanted Peter back tommorow, they'd be jumping around salivating at the very thought of it

[Kurolegacy]

Didnt feel a thing personally. To me it was cheesy, nonsensical, and cliched.

For me, USM ended with the third annual when he and MJ have that talk. Nothing past Ultimatium ever made sense to me, so I don't count any of it as canon. That's just me though, if you enjoyed it, the more power to you.

I actually like Miles stint as Spidey, and really enjoy his stories, but Ultimate Peter's tale was far from done. Being cut down in the prime of life without getting to experiance adult years or becoming a father and creating a legacy with MJ is NOT what I would call a "complete story".

Honestly, I gotta agree that I just couldn't feel the story the way everyone else did because way too many elements just felt contrived in it as if the universe itself wanted him dead topped with the variants for the story arc. It felt more like they were shoving down our throats that they were gonna do it and not kidding. It made it all seem less genuine and more forced.