Steven Spielberg (Friend of Lucas, has often come close to directing a SW)
George Lucas again
David Lynch (Almost directed ROTJ)
David Filoni (director of Clone Wars movie and series)
Christopher Nolan (The Dark Knight Trilogy)
Joss Whedon (Serenity, Avengers, various TV series)
J. J Abrams (Star Trek, Super 8, various TV series)
Frank Darabont (Almost directed TPM)
Kathleen Kennedy (Basically is co-chair of Lucasfilm)
Gendy Tartovsky (The original Clone Wars micro series, various TV series and Hotel Transylvania)
Brad Bird (Incredibles, Mission Impossible IV)
Francis Ford Copolla (Godfather trilogy & friend of Lucas)
Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings trilogy)
Guillermo del Toro (Pan's Labyrynth, Hellboy)
There has been plenty of prognostication over what may happen. The thing is that it is kind of a pointless conversation. People want EU stuff. Lucasfilm/Disney isn't going to go that route for 7-9. But they MAY go that route for the various spinoff films that seem to be also in development by Kasdan and the other screenwriter whos name escapes me right now. But it is all guesswork.
Fanboys would rather bicker about what has already been done, and done badly in their opinion. It gives them more power.
I know. Those aren't fans, the are Fanboys. Self-Entitled spoiled fans who think they know better what should be done in the future movies than the people who have been making movies for longer than they (the fanboys) have been alive.
They could, but they still cannot stop Obi-wan from doing it. Qui-gon said that he was going to train Anakin, in spite of the Council saying no. He then makes Obi-wan promise him to do it. So no, short of killing him, they cannot stop Obi-wan from training Anakin. That is not the Jedi way. Regardless, the Sith were back and the Council knew that if the Prophecy was true, they would need Anakin.Sure they could stop Obi-Wan, they're the Jedi Council, he answers to them, they could just tell him no. They could have just told Obi-Wan something like: We know of your promise to Qui-Gon, but the entire Jedi Council feels this child is a danger to both us and the Republic. Maybe tell Obi-Wan he shouldn't let his sentimentality cloud his judgment or something.
Except Lucas admitted in the Annotated Screenplays that Leia was never planned to be the sister. That it was a decision made to give Luke incentive to lash out at Vader, if it was more personal, than with a total stranger.Originally Posted by Guapo Mendez
No, because by the time of the OT, Yoda and Obi-wan were amending the Code. That's why they let the children be raised by outsiders over starting their training right off. Yoda cites the age factor because he's disappointed in Luke. That's why he reluctantly agrees to it and why he rubs it in Obi-wan's face after Luke's gone.As the fifth or sixth reason. Age being a hard requirement would have been reason number 1.
Obi-wan is the instructor here, not Yoda and the Council. That's why Lucas said that if Yoda had trained Anakin, it would be a different situation. But it wasn't. Obi-wan, as he said to Luke, took it upon himself to train Anakin. All the Council did, minus Yoda, was give permission.They still didn't train him. It took Qui-Gon's dying wish to make Obi-Wan his trainer. What kind of method is that? They won't train him because of their age restriction, but there is a "dying wish" exception? Stupid, the former and the later.
Considering they send children to fight as it is, I don't think that is an issue. They let Qui-gon decide the boy's fate offworld and he chose to take the boy into battle, rather than leave him on the ship or in the swamps.And they send him to a war zone. Criminally irresponsible behavior in part of the Jedi. Makes you think they wanted the boy to die so the issue could be solved once and for all.
Anakin was trained from day one to deal with his emotional attachments. He just refused to go along with it. The other Jedi were not allowed to see their families. Obi-wan never saw his family. Nor did Qui-gon and Dooku. Same with Mace. Ki-Adi was only given an exception because of his species. They fired a non Jedi Temple employee after they found out that his son was a potential Jedi and agreed to train the boy. Kerian Halcyon quit the Jedi Order to have his son Hal. Quinlan Vos hid his family from the Council. Same with Shared Hett and his son.He could have been trained to deal with his emotions in the next ten years. There is no excuse for what the Jedi did: they treated him like shit the second they met him and they just kept him at arm's length for the next decade. And they left his mother to rot while other Jedis could see their families and even a few had special dispensations to have families.
Not quite. ANH originally had all kinds of stuff going on. He broke it down into three scripts and then added material to ANH, to make it into the film that we got. He still put things in that were not in the first draft, such as the full Death Star rescue, the Tusken Raiders and the destruction of Alderaan. Even adding a Lightsaber duel. In ROTJ, he took some of the ideas for VII-IX and combined them into that film. With TPM, the 20% was the material taken from the first draft which included using the invasion of Aqualie and turning it into the invasion of Naboo. Showcasing the rise of Palpatine and the introduction of Obi-wan and Anakin. Everything else that he added, was in the same fashion as the material that he added in ANH. He explored the world that he was creating. AOTC was the same way. The 20% being Anakin's relationship with Padme and the start of the Clone Wars. He explored that story in that film. The 60% of ROTS, was where it all falls into place. The remaining percentage was wrapping everything off.Yes, but Lucas didn't say he only put 20% of the story he needed to tell in ANH, TESB or ROTJ. The prequels have a lot of filler, admitted by Lucas himself.
Remember, if Lucas had stuck to the original plan, Episode I would be about the Jedi and the Sith Orders. Episode II would be the Clone Wars and Episode III would be the rise of Darth Vader.
Both Sith Lords had to go down. That's why they were going to wait until Luke was emotionally ready. It just turned out that he was, since Luke doesn't go bad. He exceeded even their expectations.Then you train him in order to defeat the guy who corrupted his father and is currently the reason why the Empire is in such shitty conditions.
Nope. Any potential that was over the age limit, was rejected outright. No exceptions. For one thousand years, this was how they handled their business. Two thousand years before that, the Jedi didn't have strict age limits. They only allowed Anakin because of his possibly being the Chosen One and the return of the Sith.Anakin is a special case: grudgingly accepted into the Jedi, he's too old for training, he is not in control, etc, etc. Don't tell me the Jedi had never, in 1,000 generations, faced such a special needs student and had no provisions for such a case.
By making Shmi's death random, it showed that Anakin was fighting fate. Not evil itself. Which is then profound when he tries to fight fate again, when it is Padme's life that is threatened. Much like Luke tries to fight fate in the OT. First by refusing to go with Obi-wan, only to have his obligations taken from him. Then by trying to avoid facing his father, which he realizes is futile because Vader is already at Endor waiting. Then again when he has to choose between good and evil.Ah, but that's another story. A much better story that works. Anakin's mother is slain while in custody of Jedi officials? It shows how much of a badass the "phantom menace" is and it can point Anakin in the dark direction. "Jedis couldn't protect her. There must be something, or someone, who can." Cue Palpatine with his brochures..
The conflict of the Skywalker men was about fate, not personal vendettas. That's why Shmi is taken by Tuskens at random. Why Padme dies in childbirth. Why Luke wants to avoid killing his father and becoming just like him.
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And that's a problem with the writing, Obi-Wan needs to train Anakin, but the movie sets up a scenario in which the Council should have never let it happen, and Obi-Wan never should have went through with it.They could, but they still cannot stop Obi-wan from doing it. Qui-gon said that he was going to train Anakin, in spite of the Council saying no. He then makes Obi-wan promise him to do it. So no, short of killing him, they cannot stop Obi-wan from training Anakin. That is not the Jedi way. Regardless, the Sith were back and the Council knew that if the Prophecy was true, they would need Anakin.
How is it the Jedi way to just do whatever you want? That seems like the exact opposite of what's set up as the Jedi. And Anakin really worked out well when it came to that stupid prophecy that shouldn't have ever been in the movie.
The decision to train Anakin seems to be a pretty pragmatic one: It's the best way to keep tabs on a potentially powerful Force-user in a galaxy where the Jedi's sworn enemies have just revealed themselves to be alive and well. Casting Anakin back out into the universe risks too much that he might be co-opted by the Sith.