How the Dark Knight Could Have Been Better (SPOILERS!!!)

[Kensei]

Well if you don't think he becomes Robin or Batman, who do you think he becomes? Nightwing?
I have no problem with that idea, although there are much more reasons to believe he'll become the next Batman..

I think Nolan leaves it entirely up to our imaginations what kind of persona Blake will take on, as since he is finished with the trilogy and has stated that it is a true ending we will never see it.

[Slugger]

Some of your changes are a little extreme. It would've been nice if maybe Alfred referenced a rogue villian Batman fought after The Joker on the down low to further his point that he should be done as Batman. But 6 years active? No chance, a year tops.

My biggest gripe was that Bane was associated with the league at all. I would've loved it if he was a drug lord or something, wanting to snatch the riches and power from the underworld while it was up for grabs, pump it full of drugs and money, and leave, putting everyone in debt to him. You don't have to change the ending, Bane may have used to the bomb as a deterrent like he did, but with no real intention of detonating it. The twist at the end with Talia is probably more shocking that way, her waiting in the wings the whole time, waiting for her chance to exact revenge. Imagine the look on Bane's face? He'd be like "fuck this, I gotta stop this broad, but I gotta kill you first."

[The Duke]

A way to make the Dark Knight Rises better.

Eva Green as Miranda/Talia. Then she would have lived up to the hype about the characters beauty.

Compare Marion Cotillard



with Eva Green.




Much like when the Joker says "Well, hello beautiful" to Maggie Gyllenhaal in Dark Knight. I MST3K'd "You sure you're not crazy?" in the movie theatre.

I got shushed.

[Statham]

A way to make the Dark Knight Rises better.

Eva Green as Miranda/Talia. Then she would have lived up to the hype about the characters beauty.

Compare Marion Cotillard



with Eva Green.




Much like when the Joker says "Well, hello beautiful" to Maggie Gyllenhaal in Dark Knight. I MST3K'd "You sure you're not crazy?" in the movie theatre.

I got shushed.

You got shushed? Good. Because you haven't exactly pointed out what's wrong with Cotillard other than personal preference. The only problem with Cotillard was how little she got to work with compared to her role in Inception, frankly. Eva Green's fine and all, but casting her as a person we think Bruce can trust but she then turns out to be a double agent of sorts? Oh hai, Casino Royale.

[theDarkJAww13]

Cottilard > Green in both the beauty and acting departments in my opinion.

And yah the outcome of Talia in TDKR would have mirrored Green's character in Casino Royale (one of my favorite films, btw) way too much.

[Mr. Holmes]

The only problem I had with Colllitard is that everyone knew she was going to be evil because she's a Marion Cotillard character.

[sunofdarkchild]

Movies have affected our perceptions of beauty way too much.

[Statham]

The only problem I had with Colllitard is that everyone knew she was going to be evil because she's a Marion Cotillard character.

Pretty much. I think it was obvious even before she came out and said 'I'm not Talia' that she was. But.. Well, I was interested to see how it all worked out. At the same time, there was that much stuff floating around about the film because of the hype that I think anyone could have been Talia and it would have been spoiled. It's just the name of the game, here, like how I think we knew Two-Face was actually in TDK before it came out.

Movies have affected our perceptions of beauty way too much.

To be fair, I wasn't saying Green would be bad, but I would like to know exactly what's meant to be so bad about Cotillard. And the comments about Gyllenhaal were just.. Well. Off, to me. I think people just have standards that are way, way too high, these days, but then hey, today's society is one where Marilyn Monroe would be considered fat. Which.. Well, says it all.

[TheDarkNut]

A way to make the Dark Knight Rises better.

Eva Green as Miranda/Talia. Then she would have lived up to the hype about the characters beauty.

Compare Marion Cotillard

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with Eva Green.
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Much like when the Joker says "Well, hello beautiful" to Maggie Gyllenhaal in Dark Knight. I MST3K'd "You sure you're not crazy?" in the movie theatre.

I got shushed.

Woo, I wanna know what type of beauty you see everyday before you make fun of Gyllenhaal.

[Deadman25]

CatWoman Needed more Screen time.

[sunofdarkchild]

Pretty much. I think it was obvious even before she came out and said 'I'm not Talia' that she was. But.. Well, I was interested to see how it all worked out. At the same time, there was that much stuff floating around about the film because of the hype that I think anyone could have been Talia and it would have been spoiled. It's just the name of the game, here, like how I think we knew Two-Face was actually in TDK before it came out.



To be fair, I wasn't saying Green would be bad, but I would like to know exactly what's meant to be so bad about Cotillard. And the comments about Gyllenhaal were just.. Well. Off, to me. I think people just have standards that are way, way too high, these days, but then hey, today's society is one where Marilyn Monroe would be considered fat. Which.. Well, says it all.

That's pretty much what I meant.

And knowing that she was Talia didn't mean knowing she'd turn out to be a villain.

[refrax5]

Well if you don't think he becomes Robin or Batman, who do you think he becomes? Nightwing?
I have no problem with that idea, although there are much more reasons to believe he'll become the next Batman..

Also....at the end of the film, we see the Bat-signal restored. So while I think it's somewhat vague, it'd be weird if he came up with some random new identity and answered to the bat-signal. It works with Nightwing, I suppose?

[Vamplew]

It is Christopher Nolan's Batman. It is what he envisioned. It was Nolan's universe. It doesn't have to line up with any of the comics. If you look at all the movies non of the villains are what they are in the comics. JGL is not "Robin". They have said it was a nod towards the character but not him. It is a comic movie to some point but it is Nolan's movie. It was a great movie for what it was closing the door so no one could add on to it with Christian Bale.

[Mat001]

My biggest gripe was that Bane was associated with the league at all. I would've loved it if he was a drug lord or something, wanting to snatch the riches and power from the underworld while it was up for grabs, pump it full of drugs and money, and leave, putting everyone in debt to him. You don't have to change the ending, Bane may have used to the bomb as a deterrent like he did, but with no real intention of detonating it. The twist at the end with Talia is probably more shocking that way, her waiting in the wings the whole time, waiting for her chance to exact revenge. Imagine the look on Bane's face? He'd be like "fuck this, I gotta stop this broad, but I gotta kill you first."

Bane's role was based off of "Bane Of The Demon" (1998) and "Legacy" (1996), where Bane met Ra's al Ghul and Talia and winds up working with them against Batman. Nolan and Goyer used that as part of the basis for this story.

[ispacehead]

It was a great movie for what it was closing the door so no one could add on to it with Christian Bale.

There's no saying Bruce Wayne can't return somehow. Maybe Blake is KIA and Bruce is forced to return and track down the killer, reassuming the role of Batman.

It is fiction.

I'm not saying it'll happen, only that it could be done.